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    Above pond lights

    Come people show me your lights please . Want some it to go under my roof to light up the fish/water . Preferably remote control ( am lazy )

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    Come people show me your lights please . Want some it to go under my roof to light up the fish/water . Preferably remote control ( am lazy )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
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    Ah the boy lives on ! . Finally giving ya sel the night off from the sea like .?

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    Ah the boy lives on ! . Finally giving ya sel the night off from the sea like .?

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    Yes buddy no match tonight so a day off lol

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    I just use 2 x small led spots think 10 watts Johnathan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    I just use 2 x small led spots think 10 watts Johnathan.
    Cheers John. Just the cheap toolstation flood light type?

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    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113341881...Bk9SR6Kw_rq5Yw

    Not this particular one but similar,I use 2 x 10 watt on the length of the pond and work well from Ebay.

    A lot more expensive now,think I paid about £20 for six and put the rest round the garden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113341881...Bk9SR6Kw_rq5Yw

    Not this particular one but similar,I use 2 x 10 watt on the length of the pond and work well from Ebay.

    A lot more expensive now,think I paid about £20 for six and put the rest round the garden.
    Cheers John! How's the over stocking going still planing on moving some on ?

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    I just use a couple of 'daylight' LED floodlights from screwfix.. think they are 30w each but 10w would be fine as well.
    then plug them in with a TAPO wifi plug, and use the alexa app to control them and set up routines or timers...plus you can voice control with an echo dot as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    I just use a couple of 'daylight' LED floodlights from screwfix.. think they are 30w each but 10w would be fine as well.
    then plug them in with a TAPO wifi plug, and use the alexa app to control them and set up routines or timers...plus you can voice control with an echo dot as well.
    Cheers dave . Don't have alexa I have a wife and daughter that's far to many women that know every thing and talking in this house never mind Alexa

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    I just use a couple of 'daylight' LED floodlights from screwfix.. think they are 30w each but 10w would be fine as well.
    then plug them in with a TAPO wifi plug, and use the alexa app to control them and set up routines or timers...plus you can voice control with an echo dot as well.
    Have you mounted straight down or angled across the pond ? Thinking of how to reduce the glare so as to still see the fish

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    I angled mine away from me and no glare,just wired in like an ordinary light no fancy bits works great.
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    In my opinion the only 'right' way to really do this is to use underwater lights. Reflection and refraction are just too much of an issue for enjoyable viewing underwater imho.

    You also need a lot less power and generate a lot less light pollution but -- just a personal view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EME101 View Post
    In my opinion the only 'right' way to really do this is to use underwater lights. Reflection and refraction are just too much of an issue for enjoyable viewing underwater imho.

    You also need a lot less power and generate a lot less light pollution but -- just a personal view.
    you might like it but koi don't, as they don't have lids to shield thier eyes from intense side light

    Last edited by davethefish1; 21-02-2024 at 08:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Have you mounted straight down or angled across the pond ? Thinking of how to reduce the glare so as to still see the fish

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    slightly angled back about 700mm in from each side, seems to have a good spread with no glare

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    That's total nonsense if I may be so bold , light is light but output works more efficiently underwater so less output required . Colour and wavelength are important but brightness is just a matter of output. You just don't need as much 'output' underwater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EME101 View Post
    That's total nonsense if I may be so bold , light is light but output works more efficiently underwater so less output required . Colour and wavelength are important but brightness is just a matter of output. You just don't need as much 'output' underwater.
    it's your perogative, if thats what you like.

    manky sanke has a good take on it too

    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-constru...tml#post398589






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    Quote Originally Posted by EME101 View Post
    In my opinion the only 'right' way to really do this is to use underwater lights. Reflection and refraction are just too much of an issue for enjoyable viewing underwater imho.

    You also need a lot less power and generate a lot less light pollution but -- just a personal view.
    For me with not having a drum the idea of HIGHLIGHTING up every little fine in the water coloum is a big no no . . Also from reading numerous literatures I would tend to agree with dave on this one but always happy to be proven wrong ( and it happens a lot lol )

    This is what a forum is all about tho difference of opinion and discussion

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    Very true Johnathan well said.
    I can see what Eme is getting at but to me it is a lot of myther to go underwater and I did hear somewhere about koi not liking underwater lights.

    If you have a bright torch then try that mate to see the best position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Very true Johnathan well said.
    I can see what Eme is getting at but to me it is a lot of myther to go underwater and I did hear somewhere about koi not liking underwater lights.

    If you have a bright torch then try that mate to see the best position.
    For the record , as I have probably not been clear.

    - I don't advocate the use of any artificial lighting at all of any description. I never do.
    - We could spend many years discussing the value of both natural ( sun and moon) light and artificial lighting on in-water marine and freshwater life.
    - I was simply saying that underwater lighting can be more efficacious and efficient than above water lighting if we really want to create unnatural viewing capability of our fish -- that itself is purely a matter of aesthetics . The 'poster' is just misleading.

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