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    Keeping koi

    So this is my first time keeping koi after around 10 years of observing and following all types of koi ponds, lakes etc. i want to enter this with the best intentions and hope to make sure itís more about the welfare of the fish and itís health. Am I right in thinking if I have say a 3000 gallon pond with great filtration and keep things to 3/4 medium koi making sure water is optimal. The koi will not come into such troubles as fluke and costia or any other issue. Or is having an infection part i parcel of owning koi?


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    You could have the best set up in the world, and still get parasites/infections. The only way to minimise it would be to have your own quarantine set up and put the koi you buy in there first for months with regular scrapes checking for any signs of parasites, including sedating to get gill scrapes for gill flukes and then once you have had them in there for a while parasite free could you then move them into the main pond.

    Unfortunately I would imagine for most people like myself this is not possible as having a pond in the first place often is space/money and time consuming enough without running a QT every time you want to add fish to the pond. I have a couple of koi flashing now and the last 3-4 sets of scrapes I have done have all been clear, the only thing left is sedate and do gill scrapes although I haven't actually scraped this year as not been physically able to and now the fish are otherwise happy. It's always the same fish flashing which seems to be the same 3 males which is odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    You could have the best set up in the world, and still get parasites/infections. The only way to minimise it would be to have your own quarantine set up and put the koi you buy in there first for months with regular scrapes checking for any signs of parasites, including sedating to get gill scrapes for gill flukes and then once you have had them in there for a while parasite free could you then move them into the main pond.

    Unfortunately I would imagine for most people like myself this is not possible as having a pond in the first place often is space/money and time consuming enough without running a QT every time you want to add fish to the pond. I have a couple of koi flashing now and the last 3-4 sets of scrapes I have done have all been clear, the only thing left is sedate and do gill scrapes although I haven't actually scraped this year as not been physically able to and now the fish are otherwise happy. It's always the same fish flashing which seems to be the same 3 males which is odd.
    Sorry I totally missed this reply. Thank you for the detailed breakdown, it seems quarantine is the way to go but yes 2 ponds is going to get expensive. I do not think Iím ever going to get to this level of commitment but I suppose you never know which way and now into the hobby you can get. My plan is to try and pick 4-5 koi from the same breeder at the same time and hopefully grow them on for a few years before thinking of adding any more koi.


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    As you know, many people are still suffering from flukes, but it seems to me that if they could be kept like us, with a proper feeding period and not disturbed too much during that time, it would reduce the damage to a considerable number...

    As long as we continue with our seasonal keeping policy, which is the opposite of ours, with KOI replacements, auctions and shows concentrated at a time when the members of each pond are finally fixed and their immunity is increasing due to their interaction with each other in an upward direction, we honestly cannot foresee a future where we can find a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki Atsumi View Post
    As you know, many people are still suffering from flukes, but it seems to me that if they could be kept like us, with a proper feeding period and not disturbed too much during that time, it would reduce the damage to a considerable number...

    As long as we continue with our seasonal keeping policy, which is the opposite of ours, with KOI replacements, auctions and shows concentrated at a time when the members of each pond are finally fixed and their immunity is increasing due to their interaction with each other in an upward direction, we honestly cannot foresee a future where we can find a solution.
    Thanks for the reply Naoki, Iím interested in how you guys in Japan do things differently. Would you mind explaining the main differences and the what you feel are the benefits to how you setup and maintain koi ponds please?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki Atsumi View Post
    As you know, many people are still suffering from flukes, but it seems to me that if they could be kept like us, with a proper feeding period and not disturbed too much during that time, it would reduce the damage to a considerable number...

    As long as we continue with our seasonal keeping policy, which is the opposite of ours, with KOI replacements, auctions and shows concentrated at a time when the members of each pond are finally fixed and their immunity is increasing due to their interaction with each other in an upward direction, we honestly cannot foresee a future where we can find a solution.
    I have tried this method with no difference in results. Intensely feeding all summer, minimal or no feeding in winter and still the spring issues arise.

 

 

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