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    New Air Pump?

    I'm looking at getting another air pump to replace my ET80 to run my air curtain and bio.
    and use the ET80 occasionally on the currently unused bottom drain aerator.

    I'm looking for a pump about 80 - 100 litres, and while i have been happy with the output and reliability of the ET80 (currently on 4th year of service)
    i would prefer something a bit quieter...

    1) on my list would be a Medo 80 but pushing around £200+
    2) would be a Jecod MA 80 or 100 @ £100ish
    3) or another ET80 at £110

    what pumps are you using, and how do you rate the stated output and noise levels?






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    https://www.koiforum.uk/koi-carp-cha...ost407612.html

    Rs pump looks good and it's what I will be going for next for the airlift

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    Hi blow xp 80.s. Superb,reliable ,quiet ,powerful .Ive tried nearly everything,and i have 4 hiblows.Service kits are very reasonable as well should you ever need one,which in my experience is never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big h View Post
    Hi blow xp 80.s. Superb,reliable ,quiet ,powerful .Ive tried nearly everything,and i have 4 hiblows.Service kits are very reasonable as well should you ever need one,which in my experience is never.
    Another satisfied HiBlow XP80 user. The pump is reasonably quiet (I have on a shelf in the garage without sound proofing). The air carries noise though (I get some hum at the side of my pond as everything is air powered). I'm thinking about an air muffler to reduce the noise caused by the pulses of air compression.
    Eco Pond: 13,000 litres, 20K+ lph Airlifts, 1300l anoxic, Solum 16. No pump. 58W total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    https://www.koiforum.uk/koi-carp-cha...ost407612.html

    Rs pump looks good and it's what I will be going for next for the airlift

    Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
    i think the Jecod pumps performance is more a maximum vs most other brands the minimum you get.
    one thing i have noticed with my ET80 is now in it's 4th year the output has dropped a bit, though it's also a lot quieter than it was when new
    but they do they reccomend using the service kit including magnets every 18 months....

    the aqua eco's look good too but can't shake the feeling you are getting a rebranded jecod MA pump?
    they look identical....
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    Quote Originally Posted by big h View Post
    Hi blow xp 80.s. Superb,reliable ,quiet ,powerful .Ive tried nearly everything,and i have 4 hiblows.Service kits are very reasonable as well should you ever need one,which in my experience is never.
    Quote Originally Posted by NickK-UK View Post
    Another satisfied HiBlow XP80 user. The pump is reasonably quiet (I have on a shelf in the garage without sound proofing). The air carries noise though (I get some hum at the side of my pond as everything is air powered). I'm thinking about an air muffler to reduce the noise caused by the pulses of air compression.
    they look really good pumps no doubt, but have a price tag to match.... £250 for the xp 80
    if i was in that kind of territory i'd probably look at the fujimac 100 @ 68w for 100 litres

    seen one working at my local dealers and i couldn't tell it was on, though it's a lot noiser in a dealers shop...
    the air also comes out as a constant even stream from a bottom drain without the pulses you see on a normal pump.
    but a bit out of my price range @£325


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    looking at air pump comparisons on you tube i was surprised to see how similar the design of the jecod and hiblow xp range are.





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    Iíve had both the xp and jebao and there is no comparison

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    Hi blow xp 80,s are £180 new

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    Quote Originally Posted by big h View Post
    I’ve had both the xp and jebao and there is no comparison
    you'd think hiblow would take jebao for blatant patent infringement?

    but it would be nice to see a side by side comparison in noise and output.
    if just to show how poor a jebao really is?
    maybe i should buy both lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by big h View Post
    Hi blow xp 80,s are £180 new
    not seen them that cheap anywhere? got a link?

    aurora have them for £249.99 inc shipping
    cotswold have them for £250.94 inc shipping

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    I use the Jecod PA 80, runs my Nexus and BD, it replaced my EA pump, and I've been more than impressed with it. Quiet in comparison, and looks to me like it had a higher output than the equivalent EA.

    I've got the PA30 for my QT system, again a great pump, and more than happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeshire View Post
    I use the Jecod PA 80, runs my Nexus and BD, it replaced my EA pump, and I've been more than impressed with it. Quiet in comparison, and looks to me like it had a higher output than the equivalent EA.

    I've got the PA30 for my QT system, again a great pump, and more than happy with it.
    they do seem not to have a good reputation, but seen i've a lot of the keepers on youtube using them that seem happy enough.
    just a pity there aren't a few more videos showing the output from them.
    about the only one i've seen is a wrighty video of a 60 and 40 PA @ 15:54


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    just picked up on this video showing some pitfalls with the medo pumps.
    basically the large sized 120's have a plastic tank inside that can crack,
    and the cylinder bores wear over about 6-8 years, and when you replace the pistons they will improve performance but won't return the pump to 'as new' air pressure.


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    https://youtu.be/GdV0zuv0Enc

    KPWR used them (I remembered watching it after I got my first one, he seemed impressed with them.

    Pump shown just after 22 mins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeshire View Post
    https://youtu.be/GdV0zuv0Enc

    KPWR used them (I remembered watching it after I got my first one, he seemed impressed with them.

    Pump shown just after 22 mins
    looks good,
    i reckon if i go for one i'd go up from an 80 to a 100 so as to have enough air as the air curtain will take as much as i can throw at it lol!

    trying to find a difference between the dark grey Jecod MA100, and white and blue Jecod PA100, apart from colour...
    the grey MA version seems to have a slightly lower wattage at 60 watts for the MA100 V's 65 watts for the PA100?

    which version came first?
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    https://m.jebao.com/product.html?pro...56730396312960

    Found this, you can compare the models -

    Looks like the MA is slightly more efficient, but the PA has a higher air volume (l/min) output at lower pressures, so probably more ideal for a moving bed application. Or applications where there is less back pressure.

    Shame you're not closer, I've actually got spare PA80 you could have trialled (ordered 2 by mistake, but on the plus side it gives me a spare!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeshire View Post
    https://m.jebao.com/product.html?pro...56730396312960

    Found this, you can compare the models -

    Looks like the MA is slightly more efficient, but the PA has a higher air volume (l/min) output at lower pressures, so probably more ideal for a moving bed application. Or applications where there is less back pressure.

    Shame you're not closer, I've actually got spare PA80 you could have trialled (ordered 2 by mistake, but on the plus side it gives me a spare!)

    i'd found that link, but wanted a bit more blurb on the differences and some internal pictures to see if the basic internal design was the same?
    can't seem to find any pictures of the MA internal online....
    maybe mine will be the first if i buy one?

    one thing i did notice is the weight!
    3.6kgs 100PA
    6.7kgs 100MA


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeshire View Post

    Shame you're not closer, I've actually got spare PA80 you could have trialled (ordered 2 by mistake, but on the plus side it gives me a spare!)
    thanks for the offer,
    but couldn't get much further away lol

    decided against the MEDO a lot of money and as the septic tank company said the replacment pistons don't make up for the bore wearing...
    XP 80 looks quality but around £250 was the cheapest i'd found. more than double the PA100...

    so the itchy finger just pulled the trigger on a Jecod MA100 £99.99 delivered.
    i'll pop the cover off when i get it just to see if the insides are different from the PA100

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    Will sort it tonight bud

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