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    Battery back up air pumps

    I'm looking for reviews on battery backup air pumps - does anyone have one and how is it performing?

    A friend's mum has a garden pond that has a fountain and small waterfall for aeration but she has to run them on an extension lead through the kitchen window which has to be disconnected it at night. This means that the pond has no aeration at night so she is losing fish to suffocation.

    Running a permanent power supply isn't an option so I was wondering if a battery backed air pump might be plugged in to the supply to aerate the pond and recharge the battery while the power is on during the day then continue to aerate the pond during the night until the battery goes flat maybe 8 to 10 hours later.

    Any thoughts?



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    I can't think of anything 'off the shelf' that she could buy.
    Possible there's something for the camping market that was
    A)240v plug in
    B) Enough battery for 10hours
    C) water proof


    I bought an exterior extension lead and water proof box a while ago. Probably easier and far cheaper to go that route. I'll find a link.
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    There is one I was looking at I'll see if I can find it

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    I used the outdoor box to house my heater thermostat pictured here:
    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-constru...ow-pond-7.html

    Masterplug weatherproof outdoor box
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Masterplug-...s%2C141&sr=8-6

    There are a few more options they do that are more of an all in one solution for this particular issue:
    https://www.masterplug.com/uk/outdoor/weatherproof

    Probably the weather proof garden spike seems a likely candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alburglar View Post
    I used it to to house my heater thermostat pictured here:
    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-constru...ow-pond-7.html

    Masterplug weatherproof outdoor box

    There are a few more options they do that are more of an all in one solution for this particular issue:
    https://www.masterplug.com/uk/outdoor/weatherproof

    Probably the weather proof garden spike seems a likely candidate.
    Thanks for the suggestion but the extension lead is well waterproofed and has been supplying the fountain and waterfall for the past few years. The problem is that the fish have grown and need more oxygen which gets depleted at night so she needs an air pump which will continue to run when she unplugs the extension lead at night to close the kitchen window.

    I've made the obvious suggestion that she should have a permanent supply but I was told that her electrician wouldn't do that because the house needs a complete rewire which she can't afford so she's stuck with the problem of providing night time aeration.

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    Why can't you drill a small hole through the outside wall near a socket and run a waterproof extension lead from that? You'll have to take the plug top off the lead, feed the lead through the hole then refit the plug top. If it has a moulded on plug top then just cut it off and fit a new one once the lead is through the wall. You could either fit an RCD adapter into the socket or fit an RCD plug top onto the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Why can't you drill a small hole through the outside wall near a socket and run a waterproof extension lead from that? You'll have to take the plug top off the lead, feed the lead through the hole then refit the plug top. If it has a moulded on plug top then just cut it off and fit a new one once the lead is through the wall. You could either fit an RCD adapter into the socket or fit an RCD plug top onto the lead.
    I haven't seen the installation so I'm working on the description from her son and that was one of my suggestions but, apparently, that can't be done either. Complicated reason but, in short, they couldn't get the lead through the kitchen units and the extension lead can't be moved to a better location because her deceased husband concreted it under the garden path so no one would trip over it.

    This isn't my favourite way to power a pond so I tried various suggestions to make a better method and got nowhere but, at least it does already have an RCD plug top.

    In reality, at this lady's age, the house will be sold soon and it will obviously need a complete rewire by the buyers at which time, any proper electrician would insist that the pond should have a proper supply if they choose to keep it.

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    I've lost count of the amount of times I've been to people's houses and tried to explain how the job they want doing isn't a 5 minute job because of one thing or another and in the end it's obvious they won't listen to reason and I end up walking away because they're not willing to pay to get the job done properly.
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    Yes, this will be a major job to bring the house up to standard which will obviously be sorted when it's sold but the lady is distressed that she's losing fish in the pond her husband built because of lack of aeration at night so that's one problem I would like to help with.

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    I've lost count of the amount of times I've been to people's houses and tried to explain how the job they want doing isn't a 5 minute job because of one thing or another and in the end it's obvious they won't listen to reason and I end up walking away because they're not willing to pay to get the job done properly.
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    Double posted that last reply for some reason! So much for it being a smart phone lol
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    Me too so I've removed my duplicate post.
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    In her defence, I don't think it's a case of her being unwilling to pay she doesn't have the money to rewire the house and a bank loan is out of the question at her age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manky Sanke View Post
    In her defence, I don't think it's a case of her being unwilling to pay she doesn't have the money to rewire the house and a bank loan is out of the question at her age.
    Maybe she could rob the bank to get the money lol
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    Kitsu koi sell one, no idea if it is any good though!

    https://kitsukoi.co.uk/collections/a...31970205728851

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaysmi View Post
    Kitsu koi sell one, no idea if it is any good though!

    https://kitsukoi.co.uk/collections/a...31970205728851
    That's the one. Couldn't remember for the life of me where I had seen it

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    Pond expert solar air 200 plus pump might help during the summer months,

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    Hi Syd,

    A number of dealers tend to use the Hailea CP60 and 120 for transporting koi and also for the sales vats at koi shows .

    Matthew down at Clearwater Koi often talks about how great they are and highly recommends them.

    From memory the batteries will run them for a minimum of 8 hours.

    He has both models available in the shop and you can give him a call to discuss.

    Apologies if any of the above has already been mentioned, not had chance to read through the full thread.

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    a bit left field,
    but could she run an airline to the pond from an normal air pump inside the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    a bit left field,
    but could she run an airline to the pond from an normal air pump inside the house?
    I was actually thinking the same thing Dave but after running a lead through the outside wall to the pond was rejected I thought the same would happen about the airline so didn't suggest it lol
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