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    Drum help

    Is there anyone local to me near whitby North Yorkshire could give me a hand sometime to lift my drum a little


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    Quote Originally Posted by davec View Post
    Is there anyone local to me near whitby North Yorkshire could give me a hand sometime to lift my drum a little
    Not local but I have to do this myself, raise it slightly as otherwise the water leaks out under the waste chute. Something I didn't even consider!

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    Exactly like mine about 15 mm too low Iíve just lived with it like that but need to sort it really canít manage it on my own either plus me and diy is a disaster


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    Are you able to empty the drum of water?

    If so, you could drain it down so it's not heavy. Then get some flat head screwdrivers under one side, and using the screwdrivers as levers, lift it up slightly and then get a sheet of ply under the raised edge of the drum and then tap the sheet of ply across with a block and hammer until it's completely under the whole drum. Then it's just a case of refilling.

    That's how I raised mine a few mm, without having to disconnect it or physically lift it up.

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    I should add though that I have a Draco Solum 16 drum, which is not massive, and not particularly heavy either.

    The above might not be so easy if you have a massive or heavy drum.

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    Mine isnít too heavy thatís not an issue just I had an accident many moons ago do struggle with tasks although Iím physically able I just get really flustered and forget stuff hard to explain but if push ones to shove I will give it a go


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    Ah, fair enough.

    I know how you feel about DIY though. I think of myself as a fairly competent DIYer. But nearly every job I tackle rarely goes smoothly and there's normally at least one hiccup or issue I didn't foresee and generally takes longer than expected.

    If you do end up having to do what i suggested, I found there was a fair bit of sideways force on the rubber boots on the drum inlets and outlets, when sliding the board across. So just double check the jubilee clips on the rubber boots first before filling back up.

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    I plan to do exactly what you said Tom, drain it down and I have a sheet of 12mm MDF to slide underwear the drum to hopefully solve the issue. I have a wide chisel bit for an SDS drum to use instead though as I worry about somehow piercing the drum with a flathead.

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    Sounds sensible to me. It would be pretty catastrophic if you ended up putting a hole through the drum filter.

    One thing I didn't consider until once I'd started, was whether the pipework (on both inlets and outlets) could be moved to match the new height of the drum.

    Fortunately my pipework could be moved higher as I have rubber boots on other joints in my filter room/shed that allow the pipework angles to be changed slightly. But if all your pipework is completely rigid, then the 'small' job of raising your drum may become more tricky than you first think.

    Just something to bear in mind.



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    Yeh thatís what is putting me off doing it myself really bottom drain not an issue just the skimmer line but it needs doing much easier if you have help as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twhitenosugar View Post
    Sounds sensible to me. It would be pretty catastrophic if you ended up putting a hole through the drum filter.

    One thing I didn't consider until once I'd started, was whether the pipework (on both inlets and outlets) could be moved to match the new height of the drum.

    Fortunately my pipework could be moved higher as I have rubber boots on other joints in my filter room/shed that allow the pipework angles to be changed slightly. But if all your pipework is completely rigid, then the 'small' job of raising your drum may become more tricky than you first think.

    Just something to bear in mind.

    Yep all of mine is apart from the 2 rubber 90s on the inlet side and 1 straight rubber join from the outlet and on the inlet of the next filter inline so hopefully will be ok.

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    It sounds like you all went and fitted your drums before you looked at the fitting booklet first

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    Whatís a fitting booklet haha I did read mine and I never fitted it to be fair and was sure it would be good same height as my smaller queni 15 drum new one is the 25 model not quite as high but longer


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy66 View Post
    It sounds like you all went and fitted your drums before you looked at the fitting booklet first
    I got mine second hand, that's my excuse! I didn't even think about the waste chute tbh!

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    I got mine second hand, that's my excuse! I didn't even think about the waste chute tbh!
    Samp09 I would think twice with using mdf as its not water friendly wbp plywood would be my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burty boy View Post
    Samp09 I would think twice with using mdf as its not water friendly wbp plywood would be my choice.

    Even to be slid under the drum? I guess it could get wet and compress over time?

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    Iím sure that would be fine even the ply starts to open along edges after time my dad uses the ply a lot in his averies for pigeons and the last few sheets of marine ply he got have lasted less than 6 months started to peel open on edges


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    Thanks Dave, I get the feeling it would be ok too, once under the drum it should remain dry anyway as the drum will be covered and eventually boxed in with the rest of the filtration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    Thanks Dave, I get the feeling it would be ok too, once under the drum it should remain dry anyway as the drum will be covered and eventually boxed in with the rest of the filtration.
    Condensation in a closed filter bay may cause damp over time but maybe fit a tube heater in to keep the air in there a touch warmer will help ???

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    Hi

    Yes agree - I did my garage sides with marine ply - old ply was 20+ years and looked rough on the outside - it was sound in the middle - new stuff lasted 1 winter and started to de-laminate - ended up using plastic in the end - plastic is the future - believe that even pressure treated wood doesn't last as long as it used to........

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