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Thread: Heating, is it worth it?
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10-05-2021, 09:44 AM #21
The ability to heat is a good option specially in a QT system so you can aid recovery etc etc as mentioned above, but you need to pick the right heating system for your needs.
My main pond is unheated but the QT system is heated.________________________________________________
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10-05-2021, 10:30 AM #22Hobby and business gone but when you’re hooked you’re hooked.
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10-05-2021, 11:41 AM #23
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10-05-2021, 01:38 PM #24Freddyboy the legend
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Johnathan
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10-05-2021, 01:45 PM #25
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10-05-2021, 02:54 PM #26
I believe the 12kw Thermatec eco inverter ASHP ( I have this) is the biggest one you can use on a single phase system, they are around £2500 with a 2 year warranty, but managed to get mine for £1200 from a nice forum member who had only used it over winter. It will easily heat my combined 2.2 thousand gallon & 1 thousand gallon ponds covered with a bit of balancing feed between the two
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10-05-2021, 03:14 PM #27
That was a good deal mate, I have a large albeit single phase CU close by separate from my pond kit so I hope to be able to run from that <fingers crossed> I think it will just need a direct supply rather than from a 13a plug which this will suffice
Though is their Eco range good enough for the winter as wasn't so sure when I looked quickly?
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10-05-2021, 10:00 PM #28
The benefit of the eco range is that the fan doesn’t run when not required with a soft start I believe and is very quiet even when running hard. It will cool as well as heat, I have found on the covered 1k pond it can be very quick to get up to temperature from 6*c to 18*c within the hour or you can set it to change in small increments when stocked with fish.
As a sub note I am currently running from a normal 13amp socket quite happily without any issues1kGal BD/Skim RDF/UV/k1 2.3kGal 2windows 2airBD/skim Sieve/Eazypod RDFcombi+bakki 3xVP/UV,ASHP
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11-05-2021, 06:34 AM #29Hobby and business gone but when you’re hooked you’re hooked.
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11-05-2021, 08:26 AM #30
After how cold this winter was I think its worth having a heater plumbed in or available at least just to keep things moving if it does get as cold as this winter just gone. I haven't suffered any issues as a result of it but I do have a few fish with mucus on now so I do need to scrape. This is since I have been heated around 14 rather than from the cold though. I now have mine set to about a degree colder than the temperature it gets up to in the day then I turn it off all day and turn it on around 8-9pm just to keep things close over night. This way the sun gets the temperature up for me and then the heater just maintains the suns work over night but no doubt its going to cost me a fortune again still! I will probably keep it going until it hits 20 then use it to maintain the temperature until it holds with the ambient temperature as I want to get some good growth this year.
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11-05-2021, 08:21 PM #31
So I've read the whole thread every single comment.
Here's the thing, I get that some want to heat to encourage growth ( we all like big fish) I get that some heat to prevent assumed problems but koi carp are cold water fish! The question is how do you know you are not causing long term damage by introducing a artificial environment for your fish?
Open for debate.
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11-05-2021, 08:30 PM #32
That's some can of worms. Good question tho. MANKY over to you sir
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11-05-2021, 08:31 PM #33
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11-05-2021, 08:34 PM #34Freddyboy the legend
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11-05-2021, 08:47 PM #35
simple...Koi carp are temperate not cold water fish....
and have been bred so far away from the original magoi wild carp, that they have lost a lot of thier innate genetic diease resistance, and hardiness.
much like pedigree dogs v's wolves...
you wouldn't chuck your labrador outside all winter to survive on it's own....
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11-05-2021, 08:53 PM #36
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11-05-2021, 08:55 PM #37
Taking what you say onboard but koi carp are well documented to survive in ponds that freeze over ( the US a prime example) so by heating are you reducing their natural cycle of hardiness, if so are you also reducing their ability to fend of parisites ect.
I'm interested to see if one connect's to the other
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11-05-2021, 09:01 PM #38
Yup the difference is in Japan they have a proper summer with real heat.
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11-05-2021, 09:05 PM #39
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11-05-2021, 09:19 PM #40Freddyboy the legend
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Every day feeding container?
Good shout, I'll have a look at Takazumi :)