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Thread: tosai time?
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31-03-2021, 12:44 PM #1
tosai time?
well, now I have almost completed building my pond my thoughts are turning to stocking it. While I was originally thinking of going with goldfish or shubunkins to mature the pond and get some experience for a couple of years, I don't like the idea of not having any plants in there with them. There doesn't seem to be much cover. I'm thinking this is less of an issue for koi as most ponds I see for them are pretty bare. Also getting hold of nice shubunkins looks like it might be tricky. I also worry that adding these fish may introduce pathogens into the pond that could affect the koi when they are added further down the line.
Given this I'm wondering if just going for my tosai now/soon would be a better plan.
My pond is 6000 litres and I was thinking of getting 7, or maybe 9 tosai.
My question is, what's the best time to buy them, and any recommendations for places in the North West to buy from? I'm pretty near Quality Nishikigoi in Warrington but wondering if there's anywhere else to consider.
I realise that I'll need to look at avoiding pond cycling issues too... researching that now. My pond is at 12.5 degrees at the moment incidentally, not heated.
Is it an idea to incorporate caves or anything for koi?
Last edited by clippo; 31-03-2021 at 12:46 PM.
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31-03-2021, 08:31 PM #2
If you stock with Tosai they will get the pond cycling but be wary of NPS and monitor the pond closely. It may be worth waiting till we have a bit more consistent warmer temperatures though as Tosai are not as hardy as older Koi and it looks like we will having some fluctuations over the coming weeks at least.
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31-03-2021, 09:06 PM #3
cheers- yes I'm considering fishless cycling while I finish off a few jobs and actually pull the trigger in several weeks.
Good point about temperature... I noticed that one of the dealers seemed to be holding them at about 20?degC. Is that normal? What kind of temperature drop can they handle? My pond got up to 13.8c today but I realise it's going to drop-off in the next few days.
Anyone incorporate a "fish cave" into their pond? I was thinking about a black bin or bucket laid on it's side.
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31-03-2021, 10:25 PM #4
cant think of one good reason for a fish cave only bad ones like it collecting fish waste and debri bad backtearia.
keith
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01-04-2021, 09:40 AM #5
Give the Oaks Koi Farm a visit only found out about this place last year, Paul has wonderful set up and is very knowledgeable and all the koi are imported from Japan, your won’t be disappointed.
Dowbridge Kirkham Lancashire PR4 3RD
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01-04-2021, 09:45 AM #6
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01-04-2021, 02:24 PM #7Fibreglassed/5000 gals/4.5 m Tunnel/Spindrifter/Twin drums/Bio chambers/Beads/Showers/Remora ASHP
Running heater at low temp?
Covering the pond with polycarb should be enough to stop water temps dipping below 6C for the most...