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    lighting ?

    good morning everyone , is it necessary to have lighting on a grow on tank ? if so what type.



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    Freddyboy had his grow on in a shed with daylight bulbs and a normal tube light grew well I got 4 off him put them in my pond direct sun light the the colours changed loads brighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Freddyboy had his grow on in a shed with daylight bulbs and a normal tube light grew well I got 4 off him put them in my pond direct sun light the the colours changed loads brighter

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    hi ajm thanks for your reply, i have the tank in an outbuilding which has some big windows so it gets natural light and there is a 5ft tube light in there, but no specific light for the tank, would it benefit the fish (arriving tomorrow) to have a dedicated light above the tank ? or will the natural light be enough ? cheers mate mark

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    Must admit I put a lamp on a timer on mine, not sure if it makes a difference but makes me feel better. Only cost a few quid from Argos, floor standing ones, just make sure they can’t get wet.

    Interestingly I noticed that when the fish moved to the pond the colours improved especially yellows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djstiles999 View Post
    Must admit I put a lamp on a timer on mine, not sure if it makes a difference but makes me feel better. Only cost a few quid from Argos, floor standing ones, just make sure they can’t get wet.

    Interestingly I noticed that when the fish moved to the pond the colours improved especially yellows
    A shushi and a ochiba were the 2 that changed the most. Ochiba turned lighter orange/brown colour looks better for it. And the orange on the shushi got brighter and popped loads better

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    Interesting I noticed the brown darkened on the ochiba I had in there when it went into the pond but not by a huge amount (it’s still a bit pasty even now)

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    Apparently there is a D vitamin that you can only get from natural sunlight that is very difficult to reproduce using electrical lighting.

    There are some Fluorescent tubes, Sodium discharge and Metal Halide lamps that can produce a very mild version of the D vitamin but nothing close to natural sunlight can and that's why you can get the colour changes when moving fish from an inside tank to anything outside that gets natural sunlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Apparently there is a D vitamin that you can only get from natural sunlight that is very difficult to reproduce using electrical lighting.

    There are some Fluorescent tubes, Sodium discharge and Metal Halide lamps that can produce a very mild version of the D vitamin but nothing close to natural sunlight can and that's why you can get the colour changes when moving fish from an inside tank to anything outside that gets natural sunlight.
    Is that the same as the mercury vapor bulb we have to use for reptiles I wonder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Is that the same as the mercury vapor bulb we have to use for reptiles I wonder

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    Yes I think you are correct, I missed that one as it runs off the same kind of control gear as a Sodium lamp I think so classed it as the same lamp,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Yes I think you are correct, I missed that one as it runs off the same kind of control gear as a Sodium lamp I think so classed it as the same lamp,
    Have one for little legs musk turtles bloody hot lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Have one for little legs musk turtles bloody hot lol

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    You probably don't need to run a heat lamp in there with that on for any length of time LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    You probably don't need to run a heat lamp in there with that on for any length of time LOL
    Nor they class it as a all in one bulb for it like can run a uva and a uvb separate or run a merc bulb bit more expensive but works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Nor they class it as a all in one bulb for it like can run a uva and a uvb separate or run a merc bulb bit more expensive but works

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    I thought you were going to say a Merc or a BMW bulb there lol

    There are specialist lighting suppliers for the animal and plant keeping worlds but they tend to want to charge specialist prices too

    Koi tax and VAT added there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    I thought you were going to say a Merc or a BMW bulb there lol

    There are specialist lighting suppliers for the animal and plant keeping worlds but they tend to want to charge specialist prices too

    Koi tax and VAT added there
    Koi tax and twat added.. You'll start a new war now you've mentioned koi tax you know that don't you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Koi tax and twat added.. You'll start a new war now you've mentioned koi tax you know that don't you

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    I knew that lol

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    I can sense a movement in the force lol

    That's got their Spidie senses twitching like mad lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djstiles999 View Post
    Interesting I noticed the brown darkened on the ochiba I had in there when it went into the pond but not by a huge amount (it’s still a bit pasty even now)
    Sorry dj went back over my pictures and your right it darkened up out in the main pond natural sun Light

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    Bloody hell that looks like it's been tango'd if the one in the bottom photo is the same as the one on the right in the top photo

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    Top was when I first picked them up from LEGEND bottom was a couple months after being in my pond

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    Reply to your answer ziqqys dad,I dont use any light in my grow ons in the garage.

    If you have good light then you are fine,if you can put some poly carb on top it will help with the heat presume you are heating a bit.
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