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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    This guy sounds like a total fraud! I would be asking for my money back as it just sounds like you handed over a load of beer tokens to someone for this koi club membership. I looked into joining a koi club when I was first starting up as the fella I got my filter from in Brighton recommended joining saying it was really helpful. Because I am in East Anglia I couldn't find anything about a koi club local to me or my area so just forgot about it. Definitely won't be joining the SE koi club anyway!
    Although my post might have implied it, it would be unfair to take this guys actions as being in any way related to the koi club itself.

    Or even my experience and Andy's experience with him as being his standard level of service. Might have just been bad luck.

    I knew of his name because he's listed as a senior contact for the club. But it was through a separate search that I found his koi health company on the side. Totally unrelated to the club.

    But it would be true to say the only reason I contacted him for help was because my expectations were high in consideration of his high level links to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1671 View Post
    I paid my yearly subscription but covid forced the meetings to stop
    Im owed about 8 months subscription
    Meetings?

    What meetings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1671 View Post
    If you're still struggling RS2OOO I can put you in touch with a knowledgeable guy. He'll get you on the right track and when we are allowed has people visit him in Croydon area.
    I will warn you he does talk a lot.

    Hahahaha surely NOT Frim is it ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Haha how did we do that one? Lol

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    Think it all started with the blue measuring bowl koi tax thread!

    And an argument with Trace.

    I definitely upset him when I posted a dig at the moderators on this forum for something or other. He wasn't happy about that and stopped replying to PM's I'd been sending him about how the fry he gave me were developing.

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    So this one aint Frim's fault then ??

    Sure ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wain View Post
    So this one aint Frim's fault then ??

    Sure ??
    Frim was there when it happened if that counts?

    To be fair to Frim, he backs away when the arguments get heated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Although my post might have implied it, it would be unfair to take this guys actions as being in any way related to the koi club itself.

    Or even my experience and Andy's experience with him as being his standard level of service. Might have just been bad luck.

    I knew of his name because he's listed as a senior contact for the club. But it was through a separate search that I found his koi health company on the side. Totally unrelated to the club.

    But it would be true to say the only reason I contacted him for help was because my expectations were high in consideration of his high level links to the club.

    No I know what you meant and didn't aim it at the koi club, just sounds like a poor experience from the guy, given it being someone who you paid so much for and not even an apology .The lack of activity/contact from the club itself doesn't paint the best picture for them either if I am honest, I would have thought you would get some sort of pack through etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    No I know what you meant and didn't aim it at the koi club, just sounds like a poor experience from the guy, given it being someone who you paid so much for and not even an apology .The lack of activity/contact from the club itself doesn't paint the best picture for them either if I am honest, I would have thought you would get some sort of pack through etc.
    I did expect some sort of pack or even a membership card of some kind, but got nothing.
    I assume I should have something otherwise anyone could turn up at a membership only event claiming to be a member.

    Assuming of course that they do have membership only events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Frim was there when it happened if that counts?

    To be fair to Frim, he backs away when the arguments get heated.
    I remember the thread RS, Trace was asking Dave questions that seemed reasonable enough at the time but Dave didn't like being questioned, got the hump and then bugger off.

    Personally I thought Dave was a very clever bloke but he was also a very ignorant one at times too.

    I think he must have had a sense of humour bypass at a very young age.

    So no for once it wasn't to do with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    I remember the thread RS, Trace was asking Dave questions that seemed reasonable enough at the time but Dave didn't like being questioned, got the hump and then bugger off.

    Personally I thought Dave was a very clever bloke but he was also a very ignorant one at times too.

    I think he must have had a sense of humour bypass at a very young age.

    So no for once it wasn't to do with me
    Hahah ah that's it.. Wasn't me either.. Haha for once we can't be blamed.. But its the same reason (difference of opinion) we have lost trace and that was a very knowledge person

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    As you say RS, I tend to let others get on with it when arguments start unless I'm personally involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wain View Post
    Hahahaha surely NOT Frim is it ???
    No look where Frimley is on the map and then where Croydon is lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Hahah ah that's it.. Wasn't me either.. Haha for once we can't be blamed.. But its the same reason (difference of opinion) we have lost trace and that was a very knowledge person

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    Trace, she was a very knowledgeable person

    Well we still have Syd and he's very knowledgeable too plus he's also got a sense of humour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Trace, she was a very knowledgeable person

    Well we still have Syd and he's very knowledgeable too plus he's also got a sense of humour
    Syds Web page is my bible like.

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    Yes it's always being linked to and quoted then Syd thanks people for pointing others towards his site

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    Is this the same club that organized the koi show at Swanley Kent? The name Paula rings a bell I think I had contact with someone of that name that did a water test and possibly an autopsy on a fish, might be wrong. I used a bloke called Mick the fish, used to come round with his microscope, take a scrape and shout out tricodena or something, can't remember what costs were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkapuss View Post
    Is this the same club that organized the koi show at Swanley Kent? The name Paula rings a bell I think I had contact with someone of that name that did a water test and possibly an autopsy on a fish, might be wrong. I used a bloke called Mick the fish, used to come round with his microscope, take a scrape and shout out tricodena or something, can't remember what costs were.
    Yes, I think they have organised shows at Swanley.

    Paula Reynolds owns Lincolnshire Fish Health - would likely be her who would do the autopsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    I handed over £160.
    He was with me around 50 minutes.
    I warned him when he chose one to catch that it was Tosai and might be jumpy.

    Sure enough It did jump, straight onto concrete between the pond and fence between 2 big plant pots so wasn't easy to retrieve. It had multiple injuries. He didn't apologise.
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    Then the 2nd koi wiggled as he scraped it and the edge of the glass slide pierced through its skin and started bleeding. Neither of us said anything but I was thinking he must have noticed he just did that.

    The jumper sat on the bottom with fungus and finrot for a week or 2 after. I sent him photos of it saying I wasn't sure it would recover, but he didn't respond.

    Both koi recovered without any further issues.

    That is awful RS, i would of been so mad especially after you warning him, i know this happens but to not acknowledge anything or even say sorry well thats taking the perverbial......and too charge you full price as well...... no no no no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Just wondered if there's any SE Koi Club members on here?

    My experience of joining wasn't great. Sent emails to the addresses listed on website but got no response. Eventually set up a facebook account as that was the only other way to make contact and I did get a response from that. After completing application forms and paying membership fee I eventually got a membership confirmation email last August (It just said "Many Thanks").

    That was it. Never heard anything back since. No emails, no membership pack (assuming there is one), nothing.

    I put it down to the fact all the events were cancelled due to COVID meaning there hasn't been anything to communicate.

    I tried to find out if there might be some medium to talk to other members, but there's nothing on the website at all, and the "Latest News" page is about a 2014 show and a meeting 5 years ago.

    So I'm just wondering if this is normal or solely Covid related as I don't see the point of paying a membership if they just take your money every year?


    On a side note I did contact a koi health specialist from the club who I paid (not cheap) to come round and diagnose a problem, but all he did was drop one of my Koi on the floor injuring it quite badly, drew blood from another one while scraping it, then said he couldn't diagnose the problem and would speak to Duncan for further advice.

    I never heard from him again and he never responded to my messages chasing him, yet he constantly sends whatsapp messages trying to sell koi related stuff, usually over-priced junk.

    Does anyone else have experience of this club?
    I emailed David, the club Chairman, about this yesterday and he phoned me this morning. It was a long conversation and I won't put the details on here but the outcome was that he would like to speak to you and put this right so, if you could PM me with your phone number, I'll pass that on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1671 View Post
    I think the cuppa I made for ya has gone cold now
    That's what Mircowaves are for mun

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