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    Maintenance

    don't you just love dragging the pond vac and karcher washer out twice a week to clean the filter brushes in the middle of winter....NOT!

    can't wait to rebuild this pond come spring...
    ...number 1 on list... DRUM FILTER!

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    The Solution to Pollution is Dilution

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    I donít envy you!

    Is there much waste this time of year?

    You must be going that daily in the summer!


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    You wont be sorry Dave get one ordered mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    I don’t envy you!

    Is there much waste this time of year?

    You must be going that daily in the summer!


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    pond is heated to 15C so still a fair bit of crap coming out plus purging drains.

    in summer usually every other day but the weather is nicer so don't mind as much
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    You wont be sorry Dave get one ordered mate.
    been looking at the new queni 25 but don't want a 120 micron mesh screen too big.
    will let loads of particles through...
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    Could get a oase.. they go down to 30 micron, think ship with 60 though


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    Plenty of drums out there but its reliability you need Dave as you know moving parts break
    John

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    The queni 25 looks decent,and good value.I wouldnt get too hung up on mesh size. Biofilm reduces it anyway and what doesnt get caught this time will get caught next time

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    Maintenance

    QK25 likely has the 120 micron to enable the flow rates.

    Pretty sure most drums are 80 or less, I mean 120 is still half that of most sieves so will do a good job just wonít be as polished.

    Doubt you would notice it all that much without windows


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    You wont regret it , Dave .

    My old set up was an Easypod , followed by a bead and into a plant/bio filter . Even in winter I was cleaning the outdoor bio unit every 2 to 3 weeks .

    I recently converted to a drum (draco solum16) and bio unit . Its made an unbelievable difference . I scooped out some of the k1 from my bio , the other day , just to see if there was any muck lurking beneath . It was like looking into a freshly run bath full of water - not a speck of dirt anywhere . The drum has taken the lot .

    My only drawback is that my Mrs is starting to notice my inactivity , and is finding a list of jobs around the house , longer than my arm ! I need a project - quick !
    Colin

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    Draco Solum 16 , 400l Bio Chamber

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    What a pain Dave..... any idea what drum filter your going to get? atb Steve
    2200 gallons, infinity window, BD
    Evolve 4000 combi amalgam UV
    10k,20k AF pumps
    Skimmer trickle.

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    Having a drum is a life-changing experience compared to any filter that needs maintenance on a daily or even weekly basis.
    You won’t regret it!

    The only danger is ‘drum complacency’- a condition whereby you forget to ever go into your filter house to check everything is ok because it all just runs itself in there. I have set a reminder on my phone to go take a look once a week because I totally forget about it these days. Around once a month I give the waste chute a quick hose off to keep it clean and sparking.

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    Agree with you on that Feline, i check about twice a week to ensure the cleans are on around the hour mark and i also check the heater that's in there.... just my brain going over drive about it going wrong and melting the side of the filter box and electrocuting the fish.... such a worrier !
    2200 gallons, infinity window, BD
    Evolve 4000 combi amalgam UV
    10k,20k AF pumps
    Skimmer trickle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    QK25 likely has the 120 micron to enable the flow rates.

    Pretty sure most drums are 80 or less, I mean 120 is still half that of most sieves so will do a good job just won’t be as polished.

    Doubt you would notice it all that much without windows


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    don't think i'll need that high a flow rate,
    if i end up with around 10,000 to 12,000 litres once an hour should do....

    i just wanted a drum with a reasonable amount of screen surface area,

    the QK 15 is quite small and has just the 3 cleaning jets
    the QK 22 looks the same physical size as the QK25 with 4 cleaning jets, with a smaller mesh at 70 micron.
    but is another £400 @ £1780 vs £1395 for the QK25.

    pity you can't option a 70 micron screen on the QK25 and accept the lower flow rate.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartin View Post
    What a pain Dave..... any idea what drum filter your going to get? atb Steve
    ...can't complain too loudly, it's not like i work for a living anymore....

    most likely a queni drum, they are quite well priced...well the entry level one any way...
    and they are local to me if i need parts, or have any issues.....
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    Never heard a bad word about the QK drums, but they are not at the cheaper end of the market and a little bit more cash would get a profi drum.

    I've been eyeing up the Filtreau Combi Next for a while now, appears good value, relatively compact and comes with an amalgam UV. Just need some convincing about their after service since just getting info about the drum took quite a bit of email correspondence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Never heard a bad word about the QK drums, but they are not at the cheaper end of the market and a little bit more cash would get a profi drum.

    I've been eyeing up the Filtreau Combi Next for a while now, appears good value, relatively compact and comes with an amalgam UV. Just need some convincing about their after service since just getting info about the drum took quite a bit of email correspondence.

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    profidrums are a bit out of my bracket,
    cheapest 25,000 lph profidrum i can find is the 45/40 eco @ £2650 double the price of the QK 25

    i've thought about the filtreau drums but for an extra £300 or so i can get the QK25 and a shop i can drive to for support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    profidrums are a bit out of my bracket,
    cheapest 25,000 lph profidrum i can find is the 45/40 eco @ £2650 double the price of the QK 25

    i've thought about the filtreau drums but for an extra £300 or so i can get the QK25 and a shop i can drive to for support.
    Sorry mate, didn't realise they now do a QK25 as a combi.

    Yes that looks good, might be a few cm too long for my filter pit but in all other dimensions it's actually more compact than the Filtreau.

    Maybe I need to have another measure up!

    Mesh size looks on the big side, wonder if they'd do it with a 60 micron mesh?

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    I think the Filtreau is good for the price and incl a submersible UV though only one 110 outlet and it has 60 mm screen.

    On the other hand the Queni is handy to you Dave which is good if spares are needed,that is why I went for a Draco as they are made local to me.
    I nearly went for the Filtreau or Aem which I think are the same but got my Draco 25 for a great deal.
    John

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    Maintenance

    I have an oase proficlear premium that I picked up used. Itís not missed a beat and I donít think it will. High quality units that are built to last!

    I really like that the screens are replaceable and everything is inside the box, every part is easy to order online from a washer to a controller. Yes parts are expensive but I do believe itís a higher quality part, and I would rather pay for a new motor 10 years later than have to replace a drum 3 years later as itís failed and not repairable or parts unavailable.

    Itís all a case of each to their own really but Iím just giving my first had experience.


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