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18-10-2020, 12:03 AM #1
Which one would you choose
1st picture is Yamazaki 26cm
2nd picture is Marchionne 25cmScreenshot_20201017-144845_Messenger.jpgScreenshot_20201017-144816_Messenger.jpg
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18-10-2020, 12:42 AM #22016 new 6000 gallon pond
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18-10-2020, 02:28 AM #3
No1 for me.
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18-10-2020, 08:05 AM #4
No 2 pattern and shape
Fibreglassed/5000 gals/4.5 m Tunnel/Spindrifter/Twin drums/Bio chambers/Beads/Showers/Remora ASHP
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18-10-2020, 09:26 AM #5
Number two for me,
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18-10-2020, 09:49 AM #6
The pattern on the first one would be my preference.
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18-10-2020, 10:18 AM #7
The stability of the sumi on the first one would worry me. My Showa's sumi went like this then disappeared! The 2nd one looks to have better defined sumi - at the mo. No guarantee it'll stay that way I know! Plus it's got really nicely balanced Motogoro. That's my thing so it'd be No.2 for me
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18-10-2020, 10:36 AM #8
Here you go... the case of the disappearing sumi! How a Showa becomes a Kohaku Just as well she's still got the lovely kuchibeni. Makes up for the disappointment of losing her pattern. Shame about the Hikkui on her head but it's stabilized currently so hopefully won't progress. Lovely friendly fish that enjoys a chin rub so still adore her despite her chameleon tendency This is a Yamamatsu bought as a Sansai.
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18-10-2020, 10:49 AM #9
Second one for me
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18-10-2020, 10:55 AM #10
I like the pattern on number 1 that would be my choice
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18-10-2020, 12:58 PM #11
one for me, with my granite hard water I would expect the sumi to come through nicely
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18-10-2020, 01:01 PM #12
Which one would you choose
The pattern on 1 looks good now but I think the Hi would be out of balance when a bigger fish. I think number 2 would be my choice
I don’t mind Kage sumi but there is no developed sumi at all on 1
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18-10-2020, 01:10 PM #1311,440L Raised Pond, BD, Oase ProfiClear, Bitron 55W, 2x10k Aquaforte Varios, Skimmer to Waterblade
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18-10-2020, 01:13 PM #14
Which one would you choose
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18-10-2020, 01:30 PM #15
It is frustrating as the Sumi was really appealing originally. It zig zagged all the way down the body from the head (sadly I've no photos that show just how nice it looked initially as I had a blip with my phone and lost some pics). I even forked out for Sansai in the hope the colours may be more stable at that age. Just shows you can never predict what a koi will do. I'm honestly hoping she'll loose all the black now as that'll justify me buying another Showa so I'll have all three Gosanke as my Sanke is holding good
Sadly my other Showa (the baby you can see in my Avatar) had to be euthanised this year from Costia and I still miss her as she was coming along beautifully. I like a Showa that's heavy on the sumi - plus she had large symmetrical Motogoro It's a tough old hobby sometimes.
Sorry ... I've put a right old dampner on this happy thread. Back to the topic... yay new fish!
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18-10-2020, 03:02 PM #16
You need a good understanding of the parent blood lines to even try to predict how things will develop with Showa and Sanke.
With the right genetics the Kage sumi in no 1 would have better potential than the strong sumi on no 2 which looks too ‘finished’ in a fish of that age. But without a working knowledge of those particular breeders and brood stock it’s pretty much a total gamble.
Thats assuming the fish are going into the right water, with the right food and temperature/food regime too.2016 new 6000 gallon pond
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18-10-2020, 03:08 PM #1711,440L Raised Pond, BD, Oase ProfiClear, Bitron 55W, 2x10k Aquaforte Varios, Skimmer to Waterblade
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