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    Oh, the temptation!

    As some of you may know Iím a big fan of British bred koi from good Japanese parent stock.

    Iíve spent all weekend battling with the urge to buy new koi that I donít need and canít currently afford as I am off work with my back at the moment. I was really hoping that the ones I really wanted would have sold by today to save me from temptation The one Iím most keen on is still there literally talking to me through the screen

    Has anyone been shopping in the Cuttlebrook new releases weekend? https://cuttlebrookkoifarm.co.uk/col...brook-koi-farm



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    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    As some of you may know I’m a big fan of British bred koi from good Japanese parent stock.

    I’ve spent all weekend battling with the urge to buy new koi that I don’t need and can’t currently afford as I am off work with my back at the moment. I was really hoping that the ones I really wanted would have sold by today to save me from temptation The one I’m most keen on is still there literally talking to me through the screen

    Has anyone been shopping in the Cuttlebrook new releases weekend? https://cuttlebrookkoifarm.co.uk/col...brook-koi-farm
    Go on treat your self koi are a good medicine you know lol
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    never seen much on their site but id be all over this if id not just spent 800 quid on a hoshikin https://cuttlebrookkoifarm.co.uk/col...27cm-ref-19137

    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    As some of you may know I’m a big fan of British bred koi from good Japanese parent stock.

    I’ve spent all weekend battling with the urge to buy new koi that I don’t need and can’t currently afford as I am off work with my back at the moment. I was really hoping that the ones I really wanted would have sold by today to save me from temptation The one I’m most keen on is still there literally talking to me through the screen

    Has anyone been shopping in the Cuttlebrook new releases weekend? https://cuttlebrookkoifarm.co.uk/col...brook-koi-farm

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    Well I did weaken and bought a fish My bad. OH got his quarterly share options which turned out to be more lucrative than expected (in fact were more than my annual salary lmao).

    Not the one that would have been my first choice if money was not an object, but a very nice gin rin Showa.
    I don’t have anything like this in my pond currently. Should look nice and blingy through the window.

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    Very nice that ��
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    I’m going to call her Shirley

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    That's a looker

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    I've never considered buying English bred koi, mostly I suppose, because when I was doing most of my fish purchasing 20-30 years back, the quality just wasn't there. It's made me reconsider, having looked at some of those fish on the Cuttlebrook website.

    Not sure whether I'm just a too dyed in the wool Japanese Koi chap though

    Anyway, I don't think I'll be buying any this season, so plenty of time to give it some thought.

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    lovely fish Feline.....
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    Oh that's such a pretty little fish.

    Makes me miss my baby Gin Rin Showa that I lost to costia earlier this year all over again. Amazing what a gap they leave every time you look in your pond. Mine was from dubious stock though, via Ornafish from Maidenhead Aquatics. Sadly I don't think she had robust genetics from the start. I wish yours a long and happy life in your amazing pond Oh, the temptation!

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    I remember reading something about fish from cuttlebrook needing salt in the pond to survive or something so have been dubious to buy any although they do have some excellent quality fish at brilliant prices. Same goes for Adam Byer koi some lovely fish but haven't risked it because of the salt thing. Is this right or am I thinking about fry? Lovely Showa by the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    I remember reading something about fish from cuttlebrook needing salt in the pond to survive or something so have been dubious to buy any although they do have some excellent quality fish at brilliant prices. Same goes for Adam Beer koi some lovely fish but haven't risked it because of the salt thing. Is this right or am I thinking about fry? Lovely Showa by the way!
    I rather think that may be a case of Chinese whispers! Here's an article from Cuttlebrook about their use of salt and recommendations for its use in ponds: https://cuttlebrookkoifarm.co.uk/blogs/articles/when-and-how-to-use-salt
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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    I remember reading something about fish from cuttlebrook needing salt in the pond to survive or something so have been dubious to buy any although they do have some excellent quality fish at brilliant prices. Same goes for Adam Byer koi some lovely fish but haven't risked it because of the salt thing. Is this right or am I thinking about fry? Lovely Showa by the way!
    I have a whole pond full of Cuttlebrook fish and I can assure you there is no salt in my pond. I certainly would salt if I needed to as a temporary treatment etc. but they are freshwater fish and should not be kept in salt water all the time.

    The koi at Cuttlebrook are bred in large outdoor mud ponds filled with fresh filtered water from the brook.
    Its common practice when harvesting the koi from the mud ponds and bringing them indoors to use salt to help with the stress caused by moving, and this is exactly the same as is done in Japan. It’s a temporary thing and common practice common to all koi farms in all countries.

    Not quite sure where you got the idea they need salt to survive, they certainly don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    I have a whole pond full of Cuttlebrook fish and I can assure you there is no salt in my pond. I certainly would salt if I needed to as a temporary treatment etc. but they are freshwater fish and should not be kept in salt water all the time.

    The koi at Cuttlebrook are bred in large outdoor mud ponds filled with fresh filtered water from the brook.
    Its common practice when harvesting the koi from the mud ponds and bringing them indoors to use salt to help with the stress caused by moving, and this is exactly the same as is done in Japan. It’s a temporary thing and common practice common to all koi farms in all countries.

    Not quite sure where you got the idea they need salt to survive, they certainly don’t.
    yeh I am aware of all that, just sure I read someone saying they had issues with them dying but maybe I got my wires crossed elsewhere, possibly with fry or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    yeh I am aware of all that, just sure I read someone saying they had issues with them dying but maybe I got my wires crossed elsewhere, possibly with fry or something.
    I think if you’re buying small fry fresh in out of the mud ponds then it would be a very good idea to salt initially then gradually dial the concentrations down. I’ve never bought fry so not sure what advise Mark is giving with them. If they are coming from a salted tank you would be well advised to salt to a similar concentration initially to avoid giving them one extra thing to be stressed about. I think the problem with fry often though is that people buy a bulk of them and put them into a tank with an immature filter?

    I can highly recommend Cuttlebrook fish though, they seem to get better every year, they have added some really high quality brood stock over the years. I’ve met the parents of many of my fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    Iíve met the parents of many of my fish
    Now that really appeals to me. I met the parents of my Ragdolls too. Just somehow makes adding new members to your family feel so much better!
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