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    Liner help please guys

    Hi guys,
    im thinking of having a box welded liner to save on costs, but how do I fit it to the top of the block work also how to fix a timber capping.?
    thanks Rx



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    This (brick reinforcement mesh) plus Mickey pins, allows for the fixing of the liner and then something for the mortar to bind too for the coping stones.

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    Seen so many box welded liners leak and they have all switched to firestone liners and folded it themselves. it’s very difficult but you can get a very neat job
    My brother has had two welded liners fail
    We are talking a completely block build pond, concrete base and celotex lined

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    Who is making these box welded liners? Sounds like they're incorrectly measured/fitted.

    What are your dimensions? Budget tight?

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    Correctly measured even had the felt between the the liner and celotex
    My brother is proper anal and everything was spotless , I had a boxer liner in my quarantine it didn’t leak for the five years it was running
    It’s now a raised flower bed 😂
    Just giving my experiences with box welded liners
    I have friends with firestone liners that have been slung in the ground and are twenty years old

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    Personally if you have a rigid 'box', I'd go with fibreglass, especially if you're already going with celotex. Celotex isn't really designed for pressure on to it like a liner would do.

    What's your dimensions?

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    Agreed Go with the fibreglass
    I’ve been in this hobby a while and used to frequent forums , back in the day everyone was getting these box weld liners and the advice was always yeah there great etc
    So if I can save one poor sod all the grief I’m happy😂
    I used polystyrene under my Firestone
    Still going strong , before celotex was invented😂

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    Same thing ha ha, just has pretty silver sides lol

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    Hi perks842
    is the above ment for me,?
    im going concrete base with bottom drain and block walls.
    aprox size due to space and allowing for blocks will be,
    6’ long x 4.6’ wide and 5’ deep.could be a few inches bigger.
    Rx

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    Quote Originally Posted by RX koi View Post
    Hi perks842
    is the above ment for me,?
    im going concrete base with bottom drain and block walls.
    aprox size due to space and allowing for blocks will be,
    6’ long x 4.6’ wide and 5’ deep.could be a few inches bigger.
    Rx
    No, it was for the chat that Steve was saying. Have you already laid this block now?

    Personally those dimensions will give a deep and dark pond. My first was pretty much that, 7' l X 4' w X 6' d.

    It was dark and unbalanced with very skitty koi.

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    Not laid blocks yet was going to start at weekend.

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    Already laid the slab and BD?

    Any chance of extending width?

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    Max width would only be 5’

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    Space is tight, but I’ll do my best to grab a few inches if I can. Slabs going in Wednesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by RX koi View Post
    Space is tight, but I’ll do my best to grab a few inches if I can. Slabs going in Wednesday
    Try steal over the 5' mark

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    No way of going over 5’ that’s going to be the max could get to 7’ in length at a push but that’s the very max, just wish I had more space buddy..

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    The length isn't going to change much, which side is south on it?

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    Will sunlight come in ok from the south end, or is there a fence/wall where the filter house is?

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    Yes we get sunlight ok

 

 

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