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    Feed till they can feed no more, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spongebob View Post
    3 months is very good. I’m nearly 2 months in and have given up on the wonder bottles of bugs lol. I seriously doubt they do anything!
    Frustrating isn't it ... not knowing for sure if they are worth using or not! All I can say is this, it wasn't until I switched from using the AquaSource Filter Gel to the Oase Biokick Prem that I noticed the media (particularly the PondPads) start to colour up, but that doesn't mean to say that the AS stuff hasn't seeded the media initially. Perhaps using different sorts is actually beneficial too, if they contain different strains. The only way we'd ever know how well one worked against the other would be a controlled lab-type experiment using a fishless cycle, exactly the same type and quantity of media in the same volume of water etc etc. Any volunteers?

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    .... most of all must not get more fish!
    Repeat after me... no more fish, no more fish... did it work?!
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    Well I’ve use cloverleaf bio gel and ea balls and still got nitrite I’ve just slowed the pump down with a slide valve and turned the air pump down see if that works


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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbaines View Post
    Well I’ve use cloverleaf bio gel and ea balls and still got nitrite
    I've used EA bio balls in the past and have to say, I think the gel formulas are probably better as they do seem to stick to the surface of the media (you can see them looking blue) so if you haven't tried them, may be worth a shot. Also hated the fact they didn't dissolve totally and you were left with loads of little black dots in your media or pond!

    Quote Originally Posted by paulbaines View Post
    I’ve just slowed the pump down with a slide valve and turned the air pump down see if that works
    I did the same - I have a vario pump, so would ramp the speed up and down as necessary to keep the bottom clear, but on the whole tried to keep it between 60-70%. I also swapped over my air pumps once the media was boiling nicely so had only 60 LPM on the bio section of my ProfiClear Compact. I would even turn it off periodically, esp when adding filter bugs, to give them a chance to take root. You definitely need to have your UV off when you're adding the filter aids, and it also helps if you have a lid over your bio section as apparently they thrive better in the dark... romantic little bugs
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    Did that sort your nitrite out with slowing down pump


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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbaines View Post
    Did that sort your nitrite out with slowing down pump
    It's really hard to say for certain, because I was trying so many things at once (less air, UV off, biokick, modest feeding), but I think it all helps and as the ultimate goal is to establish a mature filter as quickly as possible, then this multi-faceted approach is worth trying. Logically, a slower flow is going to result in more dwell time in the media which has got to be a good thing. The only downside to the slower flow was more debris in the corners of the pond, but as I've just written here, I solved that problem with an in pond pump and feeding NTLabs foods: https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construction-pond-build-diaries/27163-bottom-clearing-3.html#post352058
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    Thanks for your help and support on the subject hopefully i will get it under control ,going to put more bio in tomorrow night and keep UV off for another week not feed them yet since yesterday I will get them a little tomorrow if nitrite improves Nitrite


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimJones View Post
    adding the salt does not lower Nitrite it just lessons the effect is has on the fish.

    I have successfully used EA pond bomb to lower Nh3 after I did a nuke treatment to wipe out parasites.
    dont know if it does anything for Nitrite but for 12 quid it may help a bit

    Jim

    400 g tub Envirex used up 200g to start then a small sprinkle each day into biochamber of nexus .
    Pot empty.
    I'm feeding x3 per day for a week now. No UV for nearly a month Water crystal clear, pond turning over every 2 hrs. Temp 21.
    So its been about a pound a day cost.
    I appreciate that the pond filter is maturing but I think that Envirex has helped mine. Todays and Yesterday. Nitrate low. Ammonia zero pH 8.1.


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    Where did you get it from I will try it thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by jphamill View Post
    400 g tub Envirex used up 200g to start then a small sprinkle each day into biochamber of nexus .
    Pot empty.
    I'm feeding x3 per day for a week now. No UV for nearly a month Water crystal clear, pond turning over every 2 hrs. Temp 21.
    So its been about a pound a day cost.
    I appreciate that the pond filter is maturing but I think that Envirex has helped mine. Todays and Yesterday. Nitrate low. Ammonia zero pH 8.1.


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    That's the colour of death for those horrible nitrites
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbaines View Post
    Where did you get it from I will try it thanks


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    I got mine from Dock koi,
    https://www.dockkoi.co.uk/envirexbio...gms-p-564.html
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    They were the cheapest online, give it a try mate if it shows nitrite zero even for a day it will put a smile on your face
    Human life is truly a short affair. It is better to live doing the things that you like Inazo Nitobe

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiJack View Post
    That's the colour of death for those horrible nitrites
    Lol no I used to do a really good purple !

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    Hi just ordered from the link dock koi hopefully be here soon se if that works


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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbaines View Post
    Hi just ordered from the link dock koi hopefully be here soon se if that works
    Looking forward to hearing your results
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    Yes let us know how it goes, you will beat it.
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    Hope so ! tested again tonight no changes again Nitritegoing to pick up another test kit to check with the one I’ve got


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    For me they are just a gimmick. For the cost of them they need to put the nitrite to zero in the short term, and they just don’t do that (or actually anything much). The filter (and whole pond eco system) is going to take an age to mature and the best thing to help is heat to speed that process up. For me it’s all about controlling the effects of nitrite and keeping the levels to an acceptable point using salt as advised by the most experienced keepers on here. The issue then of course is increased heat causes increased nitrite problems (so there’s another battle)!

    What convinces me is the level of salt used by dealers, why are they using it? Surely as they are overloading their filters at certain times with too many fish, classic NPS!
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    I purchased a new test for nitrite today 0.25 to 0.5 cleaned filter Hoovered the pond switched uv back on tonight fed a little hopefully envirex comes Monday and works a miracle


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    Quote Originally Posted by Koiz View Post
    I've used EA bio balls in the past and have to say, I think the gel formulas are probably better as they do seem to stick to the surface of the media (you can see them looking blue) so if you haven't tried them, may be worth a shot. Also hated the fact they didn't dissolve totally and you were left with loads of little black dots in your media or pond!


    I did the same - I have a vario pump, so would ramp the speed up and down as necessary to keep the bottom clear, but on the whole tried to keep it between 60-70%. I also swapped over my air pumps once the media was boiling nicely so had only 60 LPM on the bio section of my ProfiClear Compact. I would even turn it off periodically, esp when adding filter bugs, to give them a chance to take root. You definitely need to have your UV off when you're adding the filter aids, and it also helps if you have a lid over your bio section as apparently they thrive better in the dark... romantic little bugs
    i no longer buy filter bugs , someone on here once said to its its snake oil and i have to agree, nature in time does its magic

    when i first built my pond i brought loads of different brands of filter bugs , to kick start a super bead filter , i had ammonia and nitrite issues for a year , most of it was my own fault trying to mature an unheated pond at end of october , , 6 months later wasnt happy with the space/size and reduced flow of the bead filter, replaced with evolution aqua stainless steel bio chamber all spring and summer K1 wouldnt mature
    i learnt that PP the media first takes away the shiny surface which then allows bacteria to easily attach to and colonise it, 4 weeks later with no snake oil added i finally had ammonia and nitrites under control
    other thing to do is always have more media than needed , higher flow rates and more air than needed especially in the bio where the bugs need it most

    for almost a year ammonia and nitrites have been 0

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