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    Transporting Fish - Advice please

    Hi All.
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    I 'm considering a fish purchase that would involve driving for around 4 hrs with the bagged fish would welcome any advice regarding equipment etc to ensure fish's welfare is top priority.
    Only thinking about it at moment never transported fish before except when I purchased original stock which were small fish.
    The fish in question is around 30 inches so may present me with a few problems.
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    Assume you’ll have oxygen? Remember that they get flown in from Japan so properly boxed, bagged and with oxygen should be ok. I also put ice packs outside the boxes and cover everything up to try and keep temperature stable.

    Then drive very smoothly!

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    Hi.i do not have oxygen is it something I could source easily.Would there be any alternatives?
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    Hi there You can use air from an airpump to inflate the bag as much as possible and it should be fine. double bag and a good size box will be needed
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    Hi All.
    not sure if this is in correct section
    I 'm considering a fish purchase that would involve driving for around 4 hrs with the bagged fish would welcome any advice regarding equipment etc to ensure fish's welfare is top priority.
    Only thinking about it at moment never transported fish before except when I purchased original stock which were small fish.
    The fish in question is around 30 inches so may present me with a few problems.
    Cheers

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    It can certainly be done, 4 hrs isn't that big a deal in my opinion. When I was at the last place (far north of Scotland) I took a few from Lancashire with no more than the usual oxygenated bag and that trip could take 9 or 10 hours.

    One warning though really, I had a near disaster with a big fish around the size you are talking about. Dealer bagged it in a large bag, blew it up with oxygen and put it in a big box. I did mention a concern with just one bag rather than double bagging it but he assured me it was fine.........

    Anyway, fish got a bit feisty only an hour into the journey as we passed Penrith, next thing was a loud noise as the bag burst and water went everywhere.

    Ended up doing 90 odd up the M6 with my lad holding the fish pretty much by the tail, head down in just a bit of remaining water in the bag, came off at Carlilse and dashed into a DIY place for a big storage box and the supermarket next door for some big bottles of spring water.

    Went the rest of the way with the fish sat in the big tub and a few gallons of finest spring water, how it survived that ordeal I don't know but it did and went in the pond no worse the wear for its troubled journey.

    Luck was on our side that day, but at the least don't be fobbed off by a dealer who is too bloody stingy to at least double bag it.

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    An aquosis zippy is very good for transporting a good size koi, much better than plastic bags.

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    Did you mean 30 inches or 30 cm?

    The obvious one is to put the fish perpendicular to the direction its travelling in. So if you need to brake sharply, it goes sideways rather than head first.

    I would try to use oxygen rather than air if you are using the bag method. And have a spare cylinder with you.

    Take spare everything. Even spare water in case things go wrong.

    The one thing I would say either way is to take somebody with you*.

    Oh and you can get battery powered air pumps as back ups. Again though, this isn't oxygen.

    Aquosis used to do a set up for taking fish in vehicles but I don't recall how big they were. Nor if anyone took over once they went bump.

    *I once took approx 10 fish mostly orfe in plastic boxes about 80 miles. 2 fish in each box. 3 boxes on back seat. 1 box on front seat. 1 box in front footwell. I was on my own. One of the fish jumped out of its box and under the passenger seat while I was on the motorway.

    Well you know how difficult it is to retrieve anything from under the passenger seat from the drivers seat right? Moreso if you are driving. Trust me, when it's a slippery thing thats doing its best not to let you retrieve it, it's even harder.

    My head said "let it die, you could end up killing yourself and other vehicles if you try to rescue it".

    But my instinct was to save it. So I did.

    My favourite part was the telling off that I gave the fish afterwards. I'm sure it understood.

    I took somebody with me after that.

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    I thought I had replied to this but it appears to have vanished. Can you still get Aquosis stuff now they are no longer trading?

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    It's not good practice to fully inflate a bag because it makes them more likely to burst. If they are slightly underinflated, they are more resistant to bursting.

    Oh, and always use two bags. A dealer who only uses one bag and overinflates it, doesn't fit my definition of a proper dealer.

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    can inflate using your lungs, metabolism only takes a small amount of O2 out

    have only the amount of water you need, better to have more air than water, also have the bag on its side, maximises the waters surface area and assists with gaseous exchange

    how big a fish? moved plenty in barrels and boxes With air holed lids for longer journeys than that,
    the slow pond build thread

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    As said double bagged but also used two rubber bands one on each bag.
    if it’s a fairly big koi put the box side on, so the koi’s head is facing a side not forward or back it will travel better this way.

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    if you don't have fish bags with rounded corners, you can tap the corners to stop them being a area of risk of trapping the animal
    the slow pond build thread

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    Many thank's for all the advice.

    Cheers
    Fibreglass / block 4500 G pool, Aerated BD, Profidrum S/S RDF, Amalgams, Bio Chamber, Bakki shower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Asagi View Post
    I thought I had replied to this but it appears to have vanished. Can you still get Aquosis stuff now they are no longer trading?
    Your best bet is the bay and hope someone is moving one on, they were usually made to order so doubt anyone would have one in stock.

 

 

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