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    Help needed!

    Hi All

    I'm Adam and we've just moved house over the weekend and we have taken on some Koi, however we have no idea about fish or ponds!

    The Pond water level appears to have gone down 8 inches or so. However if I top this up to the algae level on the sides, this would only leave 6 inches or so on the top shallow level (far left of picture and where the water isn't currently on.

    I've read that the shallow part of a pond needs to be at least 12 inches as the smaller fish would get stuck, is this an issue if I top it up?

    There's a constant pump, far right of picture and a sprinkler and pump on the small top pond that I presume is on a timer as comes on every few hours or so.

    Also there's around 20 fish in the larger bottom pond, 4 large ones, and 6 small in the top pond and I've seen different feeding guides on various sites.

    The owner sadly died and the neighbour has been feeding a handful of Medikoi wheatgerm with garlic once every 2 days, please can someone also advise on feeding.

    I want to get someone round to have a look and probably clean it, however with the lockdown this will probably take some time.

    Does anyone have any links to the basics as I want to check the pumps and what he set up etc.

    Really appreciate any support on this as we don't want any of the to die.

    Thanks
    Adam


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    Hi Adam,

    Where are you based mate?

    It would be good for someone local to get in touch with you and talk you through a few of the initial basics as you build up your knowledge.

    There are lots of experienced, friendly and helpful people on here who will be willing to help (including me).

    Cheers

    Gaz
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    Hi Gaz

    We're in Surrey, near Guildford.

    Yeah that would be good, cheers for your help.

    Will look at all the kit he had installed in the morning as need to do some research.

    Main thing we were worried about was the food and water level though as it's also not even a meter deep and read that it should be nearly 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam0313 View Post
    Hi Gaz

    We're in Surrey, near Guildford.

    Yeah that would be good, cheers for your help.

    Will look at all the kit he had installed in the morning as need to do some research.

    Main thing we were worried about was the food and water level though as it's also not even a meter deep and read that it should be nearly 2.

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    Take pictures of every thing you can mate and post them all up and we ll help as much as we can great bunch on here . Has he left a test kit for the water if not need to get one ordered . The depth is more for winter really so if needed could pos build up in the summer really for winter it's the way water cools 4 ft plus is warmer and more stable

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    no test kit left, will order one tonight and take pics of everything tomorrow.

    Cheers for this guys.

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    Hi,
    Carry on feeding the Medikoi wheatgerm with garlic will be fine until you get some summer food....just feed a small handful at a time enough until they eat it all, maybe once or twice a day... Steve.

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    Hi Adam
    we can offer advice I’m sure, just need to know what filters etc are hooked up, as said pics will help ascertain what you’ve got. In terms of water level I guess you’ve looked for any obvious signs of wetness outside the pond, could be there’s a leak on the filter pipe work, if one is running? A good website to understand what’s what is here:
    Manky Sanke Explains

    First steps is to work out what you’ve got equipment wise and if working, test water check all is ok with Ammonia,Nitrite and Nitrate and take from there. When you top up pond water use a dechlorinator as fish don’t like fresh tap water..we can help you bud. Cheers

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    Hi Adam, at least you did the right thing and asked for assistance .
    Think Frim and Bigc aren't to far from Guildford / surrey and no doubt would help if things were different.
    So begone virus...clear off shove off or even FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFlip off .

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    A video tour of the pond and filtration would be really useful to help you.
    Pond measurements will also assist in assessing your filtration etc.

    Main thing is don`t rush anything without advice and information.

    As for the water level, does it reach a point where it stabilises. If it does, then that is the level where you have a leak in the pond.

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    Sorry for delay guys has been a manic first week in the new house.

    Some photos attached on the set up, hope this helps to be able to give some advice and clarity on what set up I have and what I need to maybe do going forward.

    Let me know if you need anything else and cheers again for all your help and advice so far.

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    Hi Adam,

    Thank you for the pics.

    So it looks like you have a pump fed system (I assume there is a pump in the pond?) with two sets of filtration and a UV. Does everything run when switched on?

    Ok here goes......

    Are the fish swimming round ok or do they look ‘sick’? Hanging in the water (facing up or down), sulking in a corner, jumping, injured, flashing off the bottom? If all looks ok a good start.

    Order yourself a water test kit mate. I under NT labs Pondlab 200, however there are many around (avoid ‘dipstick all in one’ tests).

    Do the filters look dirty? If so, these may need a clean. To clean the green filter, turn off the pump and UV, remove the brushes and sponges / plastics from the filter and wash in a bowl of pond water and replace in the filter. Don’t use clean water.

    The black filter is cleaned by repeatedly pushing down the black handles, squeezing the sponges as a result. I believe there will be a dirty water release valve somewhere. Open this and remember to close it afterwards.

    The pump will be at the bottom of the pond and is likely to be in a plastic cage. This could be harbouring a lot of muck, (depending upon when it was last cleaned) , pull it out onto the grass and hose it clean (simplest way) using tap water.

    Is the pond water clear? This is the job of the UV light. Bulbs needs replacing periodically (I would recommend every 6 months). Maybe worth investing in a new one and replacing.

    Is there leaves and debris on the bottom of the pond? If so try and remove with a net (assuming there is no pond vac).

    Is there algae / blanket weed starting to grow off the sides? If so, grab some blanket weed killer. I always recommend Aquasource Resolve - cheap, effective and harmless to fish and plants.

    When cleaned switch everything back on, check it’s working again and there are no leaks from anything you have been required to disturb.

    You can continue feeding a little Medikoi(for now) - it’s decent food. Feed as much as they will eat in 5 mins and remove any left overs.

    When you receive the water test kit, please post the results on here. (Mainly ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, PH and KH. They are fairly intuitive to use, however if you need guidance please just ask. When the water ‘quality’ is known we will be able to offer some further guidance mate.

    Anything I have missed will be covered by someone else as there is lots of help in here pal.

    Any questions or concerns feel free to ask.

    Cheers

    Gaz

    Quote Originally Posted by adam0313 View Post
    Sorry for delay guys has been a manic first week in the new house.

    Some photos attached on the set up, hope this helps to be able to give some advice and clarity on what set up I have and what I need to maybe do going forward.

    Let me know if you need anything else and cheers again for all your help and advice so far.

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    Last edited by Gazkoi; 15-04-2020 at 06:59 AM.
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    3 separate grow on vats, one 1,600 gallon QT and a customer first business

    www.aurorakoi.co.uk

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