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    Haha thought it was a typo but as im new to all this i couldn't be sure!! was straight from the tap. Read that it would be ok given that was only about 15-20% will be purchasing all this stuff once im in a position too though for sure

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    I still wouldn't use tap imo . St (sodium thiosulphate*) is very cheap very effective and cant be over dosed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    I still wouldn't use tap imo . St (sodium thiosulphate*) is very cheap very effective and cant be over dosed

    As Johnathan said, ST is very cheap about £6 for a kilo if I remember correctly and is perfect for the job. heres a thread with the details on https://www.koiforum.uk/koi-carp-cha...ghlight=sodium

    Just add this to the equivalent of the water you are adding to the pond/changing and it will declorinate it. Lots to take in but you will learn loads on here very quickly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James L View Post
    Thanks for all the advice and support all. Its a proper little community you have here! Really helpful. I will address the media issue asap and have found some unused brushes that were left so will add them today.

    Now the water is clearer ive managed to get some pictures of some of things that are really corcerning me on the fish which i feel needs attention and possibly treatment.

    Any ideas?
    Pictures aren't great, but that looks like Carp Pox from what I can make out. If that's what it is, then it doesn't need treating, just keep your water parameters tip top.

    Those 90 degree bends in the bio were strange..... Clean 'em up and flog em individually on eBay, then replace with media that has more surface area.

    Alfagrog works well, as long as the filter system is good enough to stop it getting clogged up with dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Pictures aren't great, but that looks like Carp Pox from what I can make out. If that's what it is, then it doesn't need treating, just keep your water parameters tip top.

    Those 90 degree bends in the bio were strange..... Clean 'em up and flog em individually on eBay, then replace with media that has more surface area.

    Alfagrog works well, as long as the filter system is good enough to stop it getting clogged up with dirt.
    Not think it looks a bit more naughty then pox looks similar to a and e thread that's started yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Not think it looks a bit more naughty then pox looks similar to a and e thread that's started yesterday?

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    I think the fish have fin rot. And I am wondering if that's a very large tumour.
    The fins need trimming and then a touch of pp. To cautasaw after trimming. Also kills the bacteria that's eating fins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Not think it looks a bit more naughty then pox looks similar to a and e thread that's started yesterday?

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    It does mate. But that one looks like what ever it was has burst. And left a big hole

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    Think 1st photo looks like fin rot
    2nd carp pox gone mad ( don't forget there are many varieties )
    3rd normal looking carp pox .
    4th looks like an ulcer
    5th fin rot
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    Where are you located James ? some nice soul might come and give you some advice about your filter set up.....don't panic
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    Lol Anne


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    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Think 1st photo looks like fin rot
    2nd carp pox gone mad ( don't forget there are many varieties )
    3rd normal looking carp pox .
    4th looks like an ulcer
    5th fin rot
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    Where are you located James ? some nice soul might come and give you some advice about your filter set up.....don't panic
    we all needed help at some point


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    You alright. And family ok anne.


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    Get the water parameters spot on and fin rot can look after itself.

    If anyone remember my Showa that jumped out the pond twice.... in a Week!

    Though he was going to die, ended up covered in fungus head to toe, and lost over half its fins through fin rot.

    I gave it some daily Salt Baths for around 5 or 6 days which seemed to help with the fungus, but the fin rot went away by itself.

    Not very good pics I'm afraid and you need to enlarge them on the screen, but you can see the fin rot on the pecs and fungus on the body (bottom left of second pic)..... All fins were like this and it got worse before it got better, but it got better with no treatment. Salt Baths probably helped the fungus, but it was a couple of weeks after those before the fin rot started improving so I suspect perfect water conditions and plenty of space was enough.


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    Ok so by the sounds of it it isnt great but could be a lot worse if im i interpreting this correctly. In effect look after the water and the water will look after the fish.

    I'll look into trimming the effected fins and pp. Will need a decent net first though.

    I have already added more brushes to the filter and will scope out replacing the dodgy plastic pipework and perhaps the gravel too asap. Will also purchase Some ST for my next clearout, which i will hopefully have a decent pond vacume to assist! Apologies as didn't get to put the water parameters up but should be able to do so tomorrow.

    Thanks all, a little overwhelmed by all the help and advice on here, perhaps its ther rum speaking but im honestly very grateful

    Ps im located in St Neots in Cambridgeshire

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    Lol enjoy the rum pal
    Hobby and business gone but when you’re hooked you’re hooked.

    Always happy to help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James L View Post
    In effect look after the water and the water will look after the fish.
    Absolutely nailed it with that line

    You're keen to improve the pond for the fish and you have inherited it in this condition so you are doing an excellent job, well done!
    There is other members near you I believe who may be able to help once this plague has moved on.

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    Spot on mate when I first joined here freddyboy told me we are water keepers first then fosh keepers. Every one here is here fr the hobbie and will help in any way . We have all made mistakes and have learnt from them to help stop other making it it's a great hobbie all be it expensive and bloody stressful haha

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    Bang on pal.

    If I knew then what i know now:

    I would not be on v3 of the pond
    Would have saved a fortune
    Would have endured a lot less stress
    Would have made the Mrs find something different to moan at me about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Spot on mate when I first joined here freddyboy told me we are water keepers first then fosh keepers. Every one here is here fr the hobbie and will help in any way . We have all made mistakes and have learnt from them to help stop other making it it's a great hobbie all be it expensive and bloody stressful haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Spot on mate when I first joined here freddyboy told me we are water keepers first then fosh keepers. Every one here is here fr the hobbie and will help in any way . We have all made mistakes and have learnt from them to help stop other making it it's a great hobbie all be it expensive and bloody stressful haha

    expensive it certainly is!I often wonder why my hobbies are all bloody expensive, Fishing, photography, Koi and even football is expensive when you go to the matches!Oh and travel, why couldn't I be happy reading books for fun it would have brought me another bloody house

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    expensive it certainly is!I often wonder why my hobbies are all bloody expensive, Fishing, photography, Koi and even football is expensive when you go to the matches!Oh and travel, why couldn't I be happy reading books for fun it would have brought me another bloody house
    Hahaha aye mate 100percent . Would love to get back in to off roading but the money at the moment would cripple is like f1 cant afford to go to races but football should just be banned anyway hahah ready the onslaught haha

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    It's not your fault mate you inherited a pond. That you know nothing about.
    We all had to learn mate.
    Now your on here. You will get all the help you need.
    As there is a hell of a lot of knowledge on here.

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