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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Koi View Post
    On a personal note I wouldn't buy a fish from an Ebay seller, dry goods yes, but for fish I'll be sticking to the dealers, it's easy for them to pass on Israeli Koi on Ebay, despite what they claim, I just wouldn't take the risk as Israeli can carry KHV from what I've heard.

    I've heard that too.

    But looking at the available facts, I've read of many more cases of KHV out of Japan than out of Israel.

    But Israel might be better at covering them up!

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    After all the effort he went to to reply to my questions I feel a bit bad for trolling him now!

    But still, £1500 for 30 mutts is a blatant rip off (£50 each).

    Even KWB were selling Sakai Tosai at 3 for £50 at one point, and the quality was ok.... I still have one in my pond and its a nice Kohaku, albeit a bit stunted on growth with only reaching 33cm at Sansai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    After all the effort he went to to reply to my questions I feel a bit bad for trolling him now!

    But still, £1500 for 30 mutts is a blatant rip off (£50 each).

    Even KWB were selling Sakai Tosai at 3 for £50 at one point, and the quality was ok.... I still have one in my pond and its a nice Kohaku, albeit a bit stunted on growth with only reaching 33cm at Sansai.
    If he is able to put that much effort into a reply why is the description so poor in the listing..

    Signed off as aqua planet... never heard of them eBay Finds, Bargains, Interesting Items etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    I've heard that too.

    But looking at the available facts, I've read of many more cases of KHV out of Japan than out of Israel.

    But Israel might be better at covering them up!

    Aye, nothings ever 100%, fishing complexes over here have suffered KHV, so its everywhere, the talk as probably mostly come about from Koi snobbery

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    And as they are called Aqua Planet clearly of some substance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djstiles999 View Post
    And as they are called Aqua Planet clearly of some substance
    Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

    Listed on eBay as a private seller, no business account.
    The Only Aqua Planet on Companies House went into administration in 2014.

    The eBay listing for the koi mix has been updated from the original one liner. The full text is now their response to the question I asked!

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    Was being a tiny bit sarcastic maybe. Saw they’d changed the description as well as knock £1,500 off the price. Like you I don’t believe the breeder information for one second

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Koi View Post
    On a personal note I wouldn't buy a fish from an Ebay seller, dry goods yes, but for fish I'll be sticking to the dealers, it's easy for them to pass on Israeli Koi on Ebay, despite what they claim, I just wouldn't take the risk as Israeli can carry KHV from what I've heard.
    The largest khv out breaks in the last couple of years has been at Japanese koi farms lol.
    https://www.kodamakoifarm.com/managi...-khv-outbreak/

    KHV Outbreak in Japan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Koi View Post
    Aye, nothings ever 100%, fishing complexes over here have suffered KHV, so its everywhere, the talk as probably mostly come about from Koi snobbery
    A lot of that about tom. Koi snobbery
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    The largest khv out breaks in the last couple of years has been at Japanese koi farms lol.
    https://www.kodamakoifarm.com/managi...-khv-outbreak/

    KHV Outbreak in Japan


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    as I said, its probably everywhere, easiest thing is to point the blame elsewhere though,

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    A lot of that about tom. Koi snobbery
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    Yep, another reason to add to my reasons for not wanting to show fish,biggest reason is health risk be hard enough to keep them healthy as it is and I've no intention of taking them out of their home to stick in a vat for a few days, keep them where they're happiest, up to others what they wish to do though and I'm happy to go to shows to see them, hypocritical that though I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Koi View Post
    Yep, another reason to add to my reasons for not wanting to show fish,biggest reason is health risk be hard enough to keep them healthy as it is and I've no intention of taking them out of their home to stick in a vat for a few days, keep them where they're happiest, up to others what they wish to do though and I'm happy to go to shows to see them, hypocritical that though I suppose
    No it's not hypocritical mate. It's good to go look aT fish. That are supposed to be top quality. Plus it's a day out lol.
    Also you can learn from them to.
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    Bargains for someone


    EBay

    202990195418

    202990200592

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikokuryu John View Post
    Bargains for someone


    EBay

    202990195418

    202990200592
    See posts above mate.... Same seller as above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    See posts above mate.... Same seller as above.

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    Ive just had a read through, not that I would dare purchase any koi from any eBay seller but this seller seems extremely dodgy.


    I wonder if anyone's let any of the high profile breeders know about this. then again I suppose it could be a case of "made in japan" but actually produced at coppens lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikokuryu John View Post
    I suppose it could be a case of "made in japan" but actually produced at coppens lol.
    Ha ha quality!

    The original advert wordings were taken from Kevin's exclusively koi's listings.

    I've got to pick up a koi from Kevin this week so will definitely mention it, but there's probably not a lot be can do about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    No it's not hypocritical mate. It's good to go look aT fish. That are supposed to be top quality. Plus it's a day out lol.
    Also you can learn from them to.
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    In 20+ years of being interested in koi I've never been to a koi show, just never interested me
    I think i've only ever been to one meet up and that was a few years back when this forum did a grow n show at Absolute koi when we purchased Shiro Utsuris.
    I was a member of a club once (Flyde and district) but that went defunct years ago
    Come to think of it every koi keeper i knew has now packed it all in, most of em after the first big outbreak.
    Not to read a newspaper makes you uninformed. But to read a newspaper makes you misinformed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomster View Post
    Freddy
    In 20+ years of being interested in koi I've never been to a koi show, just never interested me
    I think i've only ever been to one meet up and that was a few years back when this forum did a grow n show at Absolute koi when we purchased Shiro Utsuris.
    I was a member of a club once (Flyde and district) but that went defunct years ago
    Come to think of it every koi keeper i knew has now packed it all in, most of em after the first big outbreak.
    Hello mate morning. What I have read on here. People do like them. And as you say most of the oldies on here have now packed in. Shame really as a lot of knowledge now gone.
    I remember the absolute koi grow on.
    I did nt enter it. As at the time. I had massive problems with NPS. With a brand new pond. And it was probably good meeting at absolute koi. To meet people.
    And put a face to a name.
    Never been in a koi club.we don t have any in our area.
    Good to talk to you mate.
    Be safe.
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    Bargain 25% off now!! eBay Finds, Bargains, Interesting Items etc


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202990200592


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    [QUOTE=Mikeh83;332008]Bargain 25% off now!! eBay Finds, Bargains, Interesting Items etc


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202990200592

    worth every penny, well ok perhaps worth a couple of pennies but not that price although they do say they are “exclusive”

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