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    Water Lily Pond

    the header tank pond i connected to my main pond for my lily (as i have a naughty ochiba that smashes lilies to bits...)
    my lily is loving it.
    throwing up pads like no tomorrow...

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    Ha ha looks great mate.

    I've recently added 3 different lilies to my anoxic pond. Never had lilies before or even taken any notice of them in other ponds, but I'm like a kid at the moment running up the garden each morning to see if any of the leaves have reached the surface yet!

    2 of them have around 5" left before reaching surface... Can't wait lol!

    Then after that I'll be waiting for one to flower.

    The leaves on all mine are tiny compared to yours so I guess they will grow once they've reached the surface?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Ha ha looks great mate.

    I've recently added 3 different lilies to my anoxic pond. Never had lilies before or even taken any notice of them in other ponds, but I'm like a kid at the moment running up the garden each morning to see if any of the leaves have reached the surface yet!

    2 of them have around 5" left before reaching surface... Can't wait lol!

    Then after that I'll be waiting for one to flower.

    The leaves on all mine are tiny compared to yours so I guess they will grow once they've reached the surface?

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    the first leaves are usually small, then you get new larger ones as the water gets warmer.

    i bought this as a big specimen lily in a massive 30 litre basket, thats so heavy it takes two of use to lift it LOL!
    but i replanted it into a large bucket.

    i got it from a place thats pretty local to me. they supply water gardens and nurserys
    they are really mainly trade, so you have to call. but will sell to public if you know exactly what you want.
    they have over 85 varieties of water lily growing in ponds.
    Park Corner Aquatic Nurseries

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    mine is a Nymphaea Marliacea Carnea
    https://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_.../classid.1517/


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    They look great.

    I bought a whole load of bare root plants from wetland-plants.co.uk

    The lilies are Darwin (pink) and Hermine (white and yellow) but also they were doing a deal for unnamed lilies that had lost their tags... 2 for a tenner, but they actually sent 5 different ones.

    Placed them a few weeks ago and some are sprouting tiny leaves that aren't really growing and others are firing leaves that are heading to the surface at a rate of around an inch a day.

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    Looks great dave. My top pond has white and pink flowering Lilly's. There on the surface now.
    I love the iris as well. That grows bloody fast.
    Fred

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    Looking lovely them! Are all you boys running anoxic now then? If so, for how long now and how are finding it? Have you seen any water quality improvement?

    Are you running anoxic in your top pond Fred it is that a separate system?


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    Looks lovely Dave,is that water cress in there as well?

    I can remember my last pond had loads of lillies in it and the koi never bothered them.
    But when I did this new pond they ripped the lillies to bits so havnt any now,strange.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.viner87 View Post
    Looking lovely them! Are all you boys running anoxic now then? If so, for how long now and how are finding it? Have you seen any water quality improvement?

    Are you running anoxic in your top pond Fred it is that a separate system?


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    A lot seem to be going that way Chris,mine is quite small but have about 12 baskets in there for four yrs now.
    I dont do water changes but give it a clean out yearly but havnt done it this year
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    A lot seem to be going that way Chris,mine is quite small but have about 12 baskets in there for four yrs now.
    I dont do water changes but give it a clean out yearly but havnt done it this year
    Wow really, wasn’t expecting you to say you don’t do water changes - have you ever had your water ICP and N-DOC tested? Be interesting to see what you different water parameters are like.

    How’s your nitrate if your not doing water changes?


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.viner87 View Post
    Looking lovely them! Are all you boys running anoxic now then? If so, for how long now and how are finding it? Have you seen any water quality improvement?

    Are you running anoxic in your top pond Fred it is that a separate system?


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    no mate I am not running anoxic filteration. I added the top pond with plants. so as to keep phosphates and nitrates down with using the plants in baskets
    and it worked for my set up. I have thought about anoxic. but as it stands now. I don t need it. I wish I had installed it at the beginning with new pond syndrome. I had that bad for 18 months.
    it would have helped. But now the pond is very mature. its ok as it is. so I am happy with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    no mate I am not running anoxic filteration. I added the top pond with plants. so as to keep phosphates and nitrates down with using the plants in baskets
    and it worked for my set up. I have thought about anoxic. but as it stands now. I don t need it. I wish I had installed it at the beginning with new pond syndrome. I had that bad for 18 months.
    it would have helped. But now the pond is very mature. its ok as it is. so I am happy with that.
    Cool thanks - interesting! You started off with just bio chamber and then recently added the bakki shower didn’t you Fred?


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.viner87 View Post
    Cool thanks - interesting! You started off with just bio chamber and then recently added the bakki shower didn’t you Fred?


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    That's right chris. My setup handles the fish load as it is. Before adding the shower. But I don t know how close to that border line I am. So adding the shower gives me more scope so to speak. Plus I wanted more flow. And faster circulation on the pond. So decided to do the lot in a oner.
    Pipes pumps and shower. After my build
    I would advice everyone to go 2 inch or above on there returns. I threw money down the drain there lol. Old pressure pipe and fittings. 1 1/2 inch. You live and learn.
    Should nt take the shower long to seed.
    Being a mature pond lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.viner87 View Post
    Looking lovely them! Are all you boys running anoxic now then? If so, for how long now and how are finding it? Have you seen any water quality improvement?

    Are you running anoxic in your top pond Fred it is that a separate system?


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    Only reason I went anoxic was to reduce water bill (£100+ per month).

    And it has worked. Average nitrates pre anoxic were usually around the 40 mark despite 10% weekly water changes.

    Now nitrates are between 5 and 20 (average 10) with no water changes.

    I have not yet identified any other real benefits that obviously stand out, and phosphates are now higher due to the lack of water changes hence adding plants and lilies.

    But my goal of reducing water changes was the main one and this has been achieved.

    Haven't worked out the exact savings recently but they were circa £28 per month when last calculated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    That's right chris. My setup handles the fish load as it is. Before adding the shower. But I don t know how close to that border line I am. So adding the shower gives me more scope so to speak. Plus I wanted more flow. And faster circulation on the pond. So decided to do the lot in a oner.
    Pipes pumps and shower. After my build
    I would advice everyone to go 2 inch or above on there returns. I threw money down the drain there lol. Old pressure pipe and fittings. 1 1/2 inch. You live and learn.
    Should nt take the shower long to seed.
    Being a mature pond lol
    Fred

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    Thanks Fred, really helpful Water Lily PondWater Lily Pond


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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Looks lovely Dave,is that water cress in there as well?

    I can remember my last pond had loads of lillies in it and the koi never bothered them.
    But when I did this new pond they ripped the lillies to bits so havnt any now,strange.
    yes mate watercress from tesco
    i put some bits from a bag in there last week, and though the sun wilted them a bit at first they're shooting up now!

    i had the same last pond i had a dozen or so koi in never looked twice at the lily.
    this one got destroyed in 2 days last year and had to take it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Only reason I went anoxic was to reduce water bill (£100+ per month).

    And it has worked. Average nitrates pre anoxic were usually around the 40 mark despite 10% weekly water changes.

    Now nitrates are between 5 and 20 (average 10) with no water changes.

    I have not yet identified any other real benefits that obviously stand out, and phosphates are now higher due to the lack of water changes hence adding plants and lilies.

    But my goal of reducing water changes was the main one and this has been achieved.

    Haven't worked out the exact savings recently but they were circa £28 per month when last calculated.

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    That's a good saving lol. Plus it shows it is working.
    In time with the more baskets your adding
    Other things will change

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    That's a good saving lol. Plus it shows it is working.
    In time with the more baskets your adding
    Other things will change

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    i could do with getting my nitrates down a bit, to save horsing water through the pond to keep them in check...
    the anoxic baskets could be an idea even replant my lily into one....

    i thought to control nitrates with a veg filter it had to be massive... like half the size of your pond.
    how much does your top pond help reduce nitrates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Only reason I went anoxic was to reduce water bill (£100+ per month).

    And it has worked. Average nitrates pre anoxic were usually around the 40 mark despite 10% weekly water changes.

    Now nitrates are between 5 and 20 (average 10) with no water changes.

    I have not yet identified any other real benefits that obviously stand out, and phosphates are now higher due to the lack of water changes hence adding plants and lilies.

    But my goal of reducing water changes was the main one and this has been achieved.

    Haven't worked out the exact savings recently but they were circa £28 per month when last calculated.

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    Really interesting to read this, thanks Water Lily Pond Do you have a specific thread on your anoxic setup or is it just detailed in your build somewhere? I’d like to know more about how it’s setup etc. Cheers Chris


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.viner87 View Post
    Really interesting to read this, thanks Water Lily Pond Do you have a specific thread on your anoxic setup or is it just detailed in your build somewhere? I’d like to know more about how it’s setup etc. Cheers Chris


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    There's bits all over the place about the subject in various threads.

    There is one active thread at the moment in the water treatment section of the forum which I started after getting my first readings once the anoxic system kicked in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    yes mate watercress from tesco
    i put some bits from a bag in there last week, and though the sun wilted them a bit at first they're shooting up now!

    i had the same last pond i had a dozen or so koi in never looked twice at the lily.
    this one got destroyed in 2 days last year and had to take it out...
    I use watercress as well Dave and I think it's great stuff helps the nitrate.
    John

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