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    Newby

    Hi Folks,
    I am new to this site and very interested in getting into Koi keeping.
    I'm fortunate to have half an acre of virgin garden (new house) to place my pond in and having read one the greatest regrets koi enthusiasts have, is that they built their pond too small, what size would you guys recommend/dream of having if money was no object?
    I've come to the conclusion that I would like a gravity fed, bottom filter arrangement with the pond lined in fibreglass but am unsure what filtration systems are best.
    I would really appreciate your experienced views and advice on the above.

    Many Thanks,

    Nick



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    As big as you can afford to keep running . And on filter every one will say drum and big moving bed . Welcome you have come to the right place .

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    If money was seriously no object then I could help you spend £50k no problem and that’s before you put any fish in Newby
    Welcome bud. Newby

    Have you seen pictures of any particular pond you’d like to emulate?
    Big ponds equal big running costs, ie, water, electrics, treatments.
    Then you have to be able to catch the slippery buggers if you need to without the aid of a fishing rod.
    How far are you from supply of services and drainage?

    Looking forward to seeing how this one progresses, could rival yours Feline NewbyNewby


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    Hi,
    i don’t think the wife would let me spend that much on a pond!
    It would be useful to know what size has the most visual impact and allows carp purchased at say 2yrs old to grown on to a decent size. I understand heating is useful to assist in creating the ultimate growing conditions so based on this, what size do you think hits the right mark if I wanted to grow on say a dozen nice fish? Where can I find inspiration for different designs as the internet doesn’t seem to have that many?

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    The build threads are amazing on here loads of different beautiful ponds

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    Hhmmm so it’s not “money no object then”? Gutted!
    I’ve just googled “koi ponds” and there’s about 3 gazillion images for inspiration Newby
    Check out Kevin’s “Koi Nerding” videos on Vimeo for further ideas how to spend loads of cash Newby


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    Hi Nick I have 4000gal pond & my final goal is to have 10 or 12 large quality fish. I'm a long way off on the fish side but have added to my ponds filtration each year. Started with a Nexus 310 then fitted a ASHP (air source heat pump) then changed the nexus for a drum & have just fitted a bakki shower. So next thing will be to move on some fish & buy some better quality ones. As mentioned above the bigger the pond the bigger the running costs with energy & water changes. Also any treatments for the koi will be more expensive the bigger the pond. If you have the opportunity have a look at some ponds or the pond build diaries on here. I would also suggest a window facing your house so you can enjoy them all year round even with winter covers on. If you have the money go as big as you can on the pond & even bigger on the filtration as you can't over filter but you can certainly under filter.
    Drum filter (low maintenance) with a moving bed & or shower would be my suggestion turning your ponds volume over in around an hour. I turn my pond over in around 50mins & trickle in 500ltrs a day. Others do things differently as no two ponds are the same as there's so many variables. Work out your budget & go from there.

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    Thanks, I've now had a look and there's plenty there to whet my appetite!

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    The "money no object" was theoretical to instill a sense of creativity. Sorry I should have been more clear. Nice to see the forum members are enthused to see ambitious creations so will keep you guys in the loop.

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    Thank you that's really useful information.

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    Set a realistic budget and we’ll help you spend it wisely Newby
    Personally, if had access to that amount of space and was being sensible then I’d probably go for something a bit more natural, in the ground, liner, plenty of bottom drains with a big drum serving an anoxic pond and a waterfall back into my main pond.
    Lilies, reeds and planting. Basically everything in a koi pond you shouldn’t have...like Milaz’s only bigger Newby
    50,000 gallons wound do nicely.
    Maybe I’d just dig a nice lake and leave thing to go wild



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    Quote Originally Posted by NickE View Post
    Hi,
    i don’t think the wife would let me spend that much on a pond!
    Wait!!! you have to tell your wife how much you spend, my wife spends more than me on koi, sometimes I think its a competition to see who can spend my wages first

    Welcome to the forum
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2.1 Meter x 0.71 Infinity Window
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

    http://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construction-pond-build-diaries/21720-roy-lynns-shiny-pond-day.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Wait!!! you have to tell your wife how much you spend, my wife spends more than me on koi, sometimes I think its a competition to see who can spend my wages first

    Welcome to the forum
    Ha must say I picked the baby's to grow on and the wife picked the few hundred pounds ones like

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    When your getting ready to move things forward start you’re self a pond diary. We all like a good pond build. Plenty of folk on here to advise you along the way. Welcome to the forum.


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