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    Senior Member Rank = Grand Champion RoyLittle0's Avatar
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    Bakki or Bio - Crunch time, whats your thoughts

    So as some of you may know, I am building a 5500 gallon pond, so I am starting from scratch to a certain extent, I have setup a temporary pond to house my fish and that is running a KLK Filtreau 30 Hi flow Drum filter followed by a 700mm x 600mm x 700mm Bio chamber with 100 litres of K1, all will be moved over to the new pond when complete, my stocking levels are low at the moment until I move to the new pond

    So to sum it up, I currently have:
    • 5500 gallon new pond
    • KLK Filtreau 30 Hi flow Drum filter
    • JBR Plastics 700mm x 600mm x 700mm Bio chamber with 100 litres of K1


    So onto the question, do I
    A - Keep the JBR Plastics 700mm x 600mm x 700mm Bio chamber with 100 litres of K1 and add a 1 meter Bakki shower with media
    B - Ditch the 700mm x 600mm x 700mm Bio chamber and have a bigger Bio chamber made, then increase the K1

    Opinions please as I need to make the financial decision soon and get this ordered


    Last edited by RoyLittle0; 14-07-2018 at 08:26 PM.
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    finally messaged you

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    option A,add a shower and keep everything,you cant have enough bio,my new pond will be 5000g and i will have a nexus 200 150ltrs k1 outer chamber on bd1,a kc-10 drum and a ea stainless bio chamber with 100ltrs k1,both will then flow over a momotaro bakki with 70kg bhm,more is always better than less,andi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    option A,add a shower and keep everything,you cant have enough bio,my new pond will be 5000g and i will have a nexus 200 150ltrs k1 outer chamber on bd1,a kc-10 drum and a ea stainless bio chamber with 100ltrs k1,both will then flow over a momotaro bakki with 70kg bhm,more is always better than less,andi
    Both options give more Bio, option A is via Bakki and option B is to increase the K1, so more either way
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyTony View Post
    finally messaged you
    Cool, i'll have a good look tomorrow
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    fully agree with the above filtration filtration filtration

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    i like bakki showers lol,andi

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    ran a bakki and bhm for 7 or so yrs . its been bullet proof . just replaced it for a maxi shower to get even

    more media in .

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    Agree with the above. You can add the bakki first and then increase the biobox at a later date if you need more.

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    So after much consideration and thought as well as some interesting reading I have decided to go for the Bakki shower with 30kg of Sakura Far Infrared Shower Filter Media, I will also be increasing the Bio to its max, which I thing will be close to 150 litres of K1, the K1 that is in is keeping the Ammonia levels down but not the Nitrate and Nitrite, so I am homing that shower will pick up the them.

    I was reading earlier that the K1 is not so good on Nitrate and Nitrite but very good on Ammonia, not sure if this is true or not but thought best not keep all my eggs in one basket

    A JBR Plastics Bakki shower is on order 1 meter wide, 3 tier with 2" inlet and weir plate, at a very reasonable price
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    I think you'll find that whatever media keeps Ammonia levels down will also keep Nitrite levels down too but it won't necessarily keep Nitrate levels down as well as that requires a different type of bacteria to break it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    I think you'll find that whatever media keeps Ammonia levels down will also keep Nitrite levels down too but it won't necessarily keep Nitrate levels down as well as that requires a different type of bacteria to break it down.

    I thought it was something like that, anyway, I don't want to keep all my eggs in one basket so I've ordered 30kg of Sakura Far Infrared for the shower and another 50 litres of K1 for the bio and see how much it will take
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Good luck Roy sounds like a good set up you have there

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    Funny... I'm asking exactly the same questions as you are with my build but a few weeks behind. My other pond has a Nexus 220 and as has been said, what I can research and the little experience I have is, that K1 doesn't do well reducing nitrates, that said mine's halved in the last couple of weeks, possible being evaporated with all this heat?!

    I won't purchase any filtration until next year now or possibly over the winter if there's a deal on but I'm looking to go with a bio chamber and bakki made by JBR this time round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeM View Post
    Funny... I'm asking exactly the same questions as you are with my build but a few weeks behind. My other pond has a Nexus 220 and as has been said, what I can research and the little experience I have is, that K1 doesn't do well reducing nitrates, that said mine's halved in the last couple of weeks, possible being evaporated with all this heat?!

    I won't purchase any filtration until next year now or possibly over the winter if there's a deal on but I'm looking to go with a bio chamber and bakki made by JBR this time round.
    I have a bio from jbr and the shower is ordered, I should be picking it up next Thursday, I'll update you as things progress

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    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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