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    what drum

    looking into getting drum filter and fluid k1,the footprint of my existing filter room is 15ft x 8ft so i am looking to save a bit of space ...pond is 5000g....any recommendations please ..phil



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    would the aem drum be big enough for the job ..........as its very affordable !

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    Personally, I’d go for something a little bigger, but it depends on your stocking levels too.

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    Blimey...there's a question which poses more questions.

    How deep are your pockets?
    Do you want to be access parts easily in the future if something breaks?
    How many inputs/outputs are you looking for?
    How fast are you wanting to turn your pond over?

    In no particular order

    Aqua Source
    Draco
    Profidrum
    Aqua Drum
    Queni Koi
    Aqua Forte
    Oase
    AEM
    Burtons Aquatics
    Filtreau

    There's probably a few more "niche" ones but I'd hazard a guess that these are the most popular makes

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    Thanks for reply ...........it will be funded by the other half's pockets (result ! ) ............for the last 16 yrs i have been running 3 filters totalling 2500 gph it needs 2 inputs from 2 b/drains .... are parts so important ,or do they breakdown a lot

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    no skimmer?

    lets say you want the facility to turn pond over once an hour minimum then you'd be looking at a drum within the 22-25 range. If you want to add some "in hand capacity" then you're the next step up to the 35 range I'd guess and the associated additional cost but if the other half is paying then I'd be doing my best to convince them that the extra is well worth having and your happiness (and that of the fish obviously) is worth more than mere money

    No idea how reliable the cheaper drums are, they haven't really been available as long as some of the other models. I'm sure that if they were proper rubbish there'd be plenty of people on here moaning cause people tend to join forums when they need to vent rather than sing a products praises.
    Aqua Source/Profi/Aqua Drum/Oase seem to be a bit more "premium" but you'll read very few (if any) moans about Draco for example.
    I can probably count on one hand the number of rants on here about drums in general, which considering how many of them there are out there is pretty good indication of how good most of them are. From what I know, the pressure pumps on some are a weak point, the water sensors on others can be a bit "iffy".

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    I had the 35 range in mind...my skimmer feeds an 8ft bay filter

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    what drum

    Talking of ‘one hand’ and Drums, don’t get your hand ‘caught’ in a turning drum like I did last night trying to clean my waste chute, lesson learnt.

    Look at the probes first BEFORE putting your hand anywhere near the Drum (I had to pull my fingers out of the gap between the screen and the chute - I can safely say I thought I’d lost my fingers!!)



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    If it helps, I have a 5500gallon pond with just over 20 koi and have spent years fiddling about with various filters until last year when I fitted an AEM drum followed by a JBR fluidised bed which has 200 litres of K1 in it. The drum runs off the mains water supply (no high pressure pump) and is fed by 2 bottom drains. The change in my koi keeping experience has changed dramatically as I no longer have to climb in and out of the filter bay doing cleaning and maintenance.
    Not sure how long this will last as I have no idea on the reliability of the drum but so far so good.
    The whole system cost about £1500 and in my opinion is worth every penny.
    Obviously I already had some of my equipment such as the main pump which is 18000 litre.

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    a vote here for qk drums and jbr plastics bio chambers

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJW2012 View Post
    Talking of ‘one hand’ and Drums, don’t get your hand ‘caught’ in a turning drum like I did last night trying to clean my waste chute, lesson learnt.

    Look at the probes first BEFORE putting your hand anywhere near the Drum (I had to pull my fingers out of the gap between the screen and the chute - I can safely say I thought I’d lost my fingers!!)



    Nothing really damaged apart from my pride.

    Rob.


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    You are not alone, lessen learnt

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    Phil, I think Rog.G says it all for you similar set up with drains etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rog.G View Post
    If it helps, I have a 5500gallon pond with just over 20 koi and have spent years fiddling about with various filters until last year when I fitted an AEM drum followed by a JBR fluidised bed which has 200 litres of K1 in it. The drum runs off the mains water supply (no high pressure pump) and is fed by 2 bottom drains. The change in my koi keeping experience has changed dramatically as I no longer have to climb in and out of the filter bay doing cleaning and maintenance.
    Not sure how long this will last as I have no idea on the reliability of the drum but so far so good.
    The whole system cost about £1500 and in my opinion is worth every penny.
    Obviously I already had some of my equipment such as the main pump which is 18000 litre.
    What size JBR fluidised bed do you have, my pond is 5500 gallons and I have a 700mm x 700mm x 600mm, just wondering what size you have by comparison, I've just increased my K1 to 100 liters, think I need to go more
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    What size JBR fluidised bed do you have, my pond is 5500 gallons and I have a 700mm x 700mm x 600mm, just wondering what size you have by comparison, I've just increased my K1 to 100 liters, think I need to go more
    My fluidised bed is 900x540x900 high and holds about 400 litres of water (the water level is about 50mm below the top) and I have 200 litres of K1 in there.
    I haven’t got a shower or any further filtration but find my water parameters are fine so I’m happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by familyman View Post
    a vote here for qk drums and jbr plastics bio chambers

    same as the above

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    depending how heavily you stock, I reckon you will eventually need some good size chamber for 5500 gallons, thats same size as my pond, i have a 1,200 litre bio chamber that will hold 6-700 litres of media, its only currently got 330 litres in it, but it gives me loads of room for growth as the fish grow, then I have a large shower on the return, that houses 4 big bags of grog.

    Depends how many fish you want really tbh, thing is you might start off with 20 small to medium fish but 2-3 years later they are big fish, then you might have to either thin them out or increase your bio, so its best to prepare for the future imo if you can.
    My aim is to have about 10-12 really big fish......one day

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    I am thinking of using the vortex off my old system as k1 fluid bed it is 3ft dia x 4ft high ...what do you think ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil45 View Post
    I am thinking of using the vortex off my old system as k1 fluid bed it is 3ft dia x 4ft high ...what do you think ?
    That should be ideal, it would hold about 800 litres.

 

 

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