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18-06-2018, 10:36 PM #1
Cone
Here we go again.
Could you put an X Micron cone in the exit of the easy (or the actual Nexus).
My theory (lol) is that as the water flows through the centre of the easy in a downward moton, I'm imagining as the device is a cone, the detritus will get washed downward like a sieve, and sit at the bottom of the easy ready to be flushed out in the next clean.
What do you think? (It's ok to have the urge to kill me)
Jay
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18-06-2018, 10:50 PM #2
Screenshot_2018-06-18-22-45-04.jpgScreenshot_2018-06-18-22-42-33.jpg
Hope these rather excellent drawings explain my idea.
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19-06-2018, 12:21 AM #3
How wouldp you flush it out if its in centre which leads to bio.and you have to put pipe down center before flushing.also centre pipe is solid from halfway to top.so you would be tring to push muck back up the pipe and back into eazy then out of easy to waste.sorry if this upsets your plans.but good idea in theory.andi
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19-06-2018, 12:22 PM #4
Ha ha ha, hope my efforts amuse. Lol.
Just came to me last night, I didn't actually go out and look at the nexus.
I'll try have a look tonight and get back to your questions.
You have a point about the stand pipe though, as that obviously stops water coming back through from the outer chamber, which I didon't think about, but to be fair that's not that big a problem, it would just drop the outer chamber a little, like a back flush.
Cheers Andi.
Jay
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19-06-2018, 12:24 PM #5
Ah my pic shows the lower inner part of the easy is solid, so as you say it wouldn't flush away anywhere.
I wonder if you could have a turned up lip on the bottom of the cone to catch the detritus and then simply pull the cone up when you clean so you can put the stand pipe in?
Jay
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19-06-2018, 02:16 PM #6
if your thinking that way how about one of these,but dont know how it would cope in centre as to blocking,i once thought after seeing the draco drum about using something like this,i thought of putting it where the slidey thing goes to catch particles as they came in,water would still flow over top but it would catch some,andi https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50-100-20...-/113076393253
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19-06-2018, 03:15 PM #7
Wow 4" in a large diameter.
I was thinking of a cone and metal as I think the solids would wash down (slide) to the bottom, but (and this is totally unfounded), I think a soft mesh would just clog.
How come you never tried it?
Jay
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19-06-2018, 03:21 PM #8
With water flowing in it should stay open.and if it clogs water should just flow over top of it.ive just ordered one haha.andi
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19-06-2018, 03:27 PM #9
Ha ha ha, that's cool.
So let me get this straight, when you say "if it clogs water should just flow over the top" you're referring to your original idea of putting it in the inlet stream? My only issue with this ideal is you will be trapping everything from your pond so it will block really quickly. If you put it after the easy then you will only get the fines so it should take longer to block.
I wonder if it could go in the centre of the easy downwards, so the mesh is actually in the transfer port, opposite way to my cone idea.
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19-06-2018, 05:04 PM #10
thats why i originally put it on,i was thinking it may drop down the centre of easy,i would just be concerned how quick it would clog,you would be ok as you have the overflow diverter,so it would just bypass to outlet,maybe a couple of wire hooks to hook it in place so you can lif it out,andi
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19-06-2018, 05:10 PM #11
ive ordered the 50 micron 15",should be here by friday,will let you know if it fits in centre,andi
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19-06-2018, 06:37 PM #12
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19-06-2018, 06:53 PM #13
Hi Scamp,
Thanks for the reply, but Andi beat you too it, I didn't realise the lower half of the centre of the easy was a solid tube, so won't allow the waste to be flushed.
That then lead me to suggest that the bottom of the cone have an upturned lip as a settlement area, like a hand juicer, and then you can simply lift the cone out and tip the waste away, and then this will allow you to put the stand pipe in the centre to clean the easy.
I am interested in Andi''s mesh net now though, if it fits.
Andi, the net it 4" isn't it? I've just measured the easy centre and it's nearly 5", so the rin around the net opening will definitely fit down, and then the actual transfer port it less than 4" so it won't get sucked through.
While measuring I noticed I have lots of fines in the centre of my easy, so it just comes through the K1 micro, God knows what it was like when it was just K1.
Jay
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19-06-2018, 06:55 PM #14
he was thinking of putting a mesh cone in where centre cleaning pipe goes to catch fines that the easy misses,andi
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19-06-2018, 06:59 PM #15
Andi, is 50 micron ok, as I've just looked at the Cetus Sieve and they are only 300 micron? Wouldn't it be better trying the 200 micron sock? (I have absolutely no concept of what 50 or 200 micron are.
Jay
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19-06-2018, 07:05 PM #16
i will measure when i get it,but im thinking its a 5" ring with a 4" tube of mesh,thats why i said about using some steel wire made into hooks to hook it at a certain level in the tube and stop it falling down,im thinking with a gap round it then it will catch a lot but still let some through,which should stop any blocking issues,as sock fills,it will just mean more water will bypass until i take it out and clean it,andi
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19-06-2018, 07:07 PM #17
well as my drum for next pond is 40 micron im thinking as i can clean it daily it will take small stuff out,but if you cant clean it everyday maybe the 150 or 200 micron would be better,andi
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19-06-2018, 07:12 PM #18
just found this on another seller,flaming cheaper aswel lol andi
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19-06-2018, 07:14 PM #19
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19-06-2018, 07:29 PM #20
micron is the size of the hole in the mesh,the lower the micron the smaller particles of debris it catches,andi heres some examples
Bacteria = 2 microns
Diameter of a red blood cell = 8 microns
Talcum powder = 10 microns
Diameter of a white blood cell = 25 microns
Naked-eye visibility threshold = 40 microns
Pollen = 60 microns
Diameter of a human hair, typical human = 70 microns
Table salt = 100 microns
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