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    Blanketweed again

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aqua-Sour...53.m1438.l2649

    Anyone tried this?
    Usually use Cba but as we know isnt as good as usual,or any other sugestions.


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    John I've heard other people have had good results on the other site
    You might save some money on here https://www.pond-planet.co.uk/pond-c...-resolve-p1805

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    I am not sure why CBA is less effective now, but it may be due to Defra or Europe restricting certain substances, which was in the original ingredients. However any similar product will also have the same restrictions.

    I still maintain that CBA is still the best blanket weed product on the market (my opinion only), but it has to be used regularly for the best results. I use it at half strength as soon as I notice short strands starting to grow, and never let it get a hold.

    I have never seen the Aqua stuff so can't say how good it is, but I think it must be of a similar make up as CBA. I have tried 'Pink Crystals' which used to be marketed as 'Pond Balance' by Interpet, no longer available I think, but I didn't like it as it had to be used weekly if I remember, for good results.

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    Good link Tac but old postage is on top.

    I am sure someone on here said it was really good and recommended it.
    I used to use Cba 1/2 dose and it was good but as said it doesnt seem as good now,i rang Cloverleaf last year and of course they said there was no change in the formula and to leave it longer,did its job in the end though.
    Just looking at alternatives.
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    Cloverleaf did not touch mine this year, clouds the water and blocked the screens on my drum, aqua source one worked a treat, no clouding either

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Good link Tac but old postage is on top.

    I am sure someone on here said it was really good and recommended it.
    I used to use Cba 1/2 dose and it was good but as said it doesnt seem as good now,i rang Cloverleaf last year and of course they said there was no change in the formula and to leave it longer,did its job in the end though.
    Just looking at alternatives.
    Sorry John forgot about the postage to make up some links to feedback on resolve as you can see its not monolinurin based
    Aqua Source Launch New Food : Dealer Section - Page 2

    Feedback here Search

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whizzer View Post
    Cloverleaf did not touch mine this year, clouds the water and blocked the screens on my drum, aqua source one worked a treat, no clouding either
    That is interesting, if it did not cloud the water.

    Is Aqua source the same type of product as CBA ie white powder or is it crystal type ?

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    If you have a veg section as I do, I cannot use CBA kills my Gunera and water lettuce, but can use the Aquasource Resolve.
    They say it may cloud the water, but it was ok in mine.

    I’m trying this APS 800 Series Pond Log Pond Zinger? | Turn Your Dirty Pond Clean | Pond Zinger? by Applied Polymer Systems

    so far so good, it’s like soap on a rope for ponds, within two days of using it a big diffence was noticed, it’s expensive but over a year I think it will work out cheaper.

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    Strange how some brands work for some other not others. Just dosed with CBA on Saturday and effects already noticeable. Yes it clouds the water but personally not too bothered about that. Doesn't block my drum, rather just gets washed out of the water via drum which isn't great but I try and dissolve quite slowly in lots of hot water before dosing which helps.

    Will look at Aqua source next time as looks cheaper and if works as well, why not so thanks for that.
    Ian.

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    Thanks for all your replies,got to give it a try now as sounds spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Thanks for all your replies,got to give it a try now as sounds spot on.
    It does sound like it works well, I brought some last year but didn't need it as the blanket weed didn't take hold in my pond

    Found this John
    Aquasource Blanketweed Resolve

    Why is RESOLVE different to others? All of the main brands have monolinuron as the active ingredient, which is classed as a biocide. RESOLVE does not contain any biocides, algaecides, ammonium compounds or metals. Why is RESOLVE better than other brands? Blanketweed develops a resistance to chemicals after prolonged treatment, and this is why monolinuron based treatments are becoming less effective. RESOLVE, however, is a brand new formula that the dreaded weed has no resistance to. RESOLVE does not cloud the water, can be sprinkled into the pond, helps to reduce phosphates and even works at lower temperatures. Also treats DOUBLE compared to others for the same price!

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    I rang the helpline at CBA , last year , as I was having trouble with the weed .

    The guy recommended using a 10 percent dose of CBA every week during the season and 5 percent during the winter .

    I`ve stuck to this regime , and it seems to be working for me - so far

    I`ve found in the past that once it gets hold , its hard to get rid of , so you need to catch it early !
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    Draco Solum 16 , 400l Bio Chamber

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aqua-Sour...53.m1438.l2649

    Anyone tried this?
    Usually use Cba but as we know isnt as good as usual,or any other sugestions.
    Last year my Koi were flashing a lot, my local dealer in Carlisle suggested SuperTab from Air Aqua so tried it. Mixed it up and use as prescribed on a weekly basis. Koi stopped flashing but a side effect was that the weed on the pond walls which was beginning to be of concern died away. Killed two birds with one stone! May have killed some other birds as well - just don't know! Plants and things in the pond were unaffected, fish seem happy. Will be buying more

    Kenny

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    Havnt heard of that one Kenny,value for money.
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    https://www.air-aqua.nl/en/supertab-...-20x-1-gram-10

    Interesting read,maybe one for manky.
    John

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    i used the https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aqua-Sour...53.m1438.l2649 after using the cba last spring. it was recommended by someone on here who maintains other peoples ponds.
    the cba did not do anything to my pond. but the aqua sauce got rid of the weed. i thought it was good. plus cheaper. i only used it the one time as well.

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    Hi Fred,did you put it straight in or mix with water and at what temp?
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Hi Fred,did you put it straight in or mix with water and at what temp?
    cannot remember the temp john . but it was in the may if i remember right. and the temps where warm anyway. i just mixed it with pond water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handy Kenny View Post
    Last year my Koi were flashing a lot, my local dealer in Carlisle suggested SuperTab from Air Aqua so tried it. Mixed it up and use as prescribed on a weekly basis. Koi stopped flashing but a side effect was that the weed on the pond walls which was beginning to be of concern died away. Killed two birds with one stone! May have killed some other birds as well - just don't know! Plants and things in the pond were unaffected, fish seem happy. Will be buying more

    Kenny
    Hi Kenny,

    Thank you for sharing - very interesting read on what you have done.

    I have followed the link posted by John - about:SuperTab - Chlorine Dioxide

    From what they write there I understand it and it does make - biochemically - sense what they claim - however do not understand, that while it is killing bacteria, fungus, viruses etc. - as it is claimed to enter the cells via bacterial cell wall - so in theory should equally enter the surface cells of gills the same way - so I wonder why it does not damage gills of koi?!? - their most sensitive tissue pumping through it a of of water with the Chlorine - dioxide in it as well? Maybe the mucus layer protect them?

    Also in the last paragraph they explicitly comment on the fact, that it specifically kills also bio-film in the treated water = so it must be killing off also the bio-film in pond filters at the same time - this explains your positive side effect on algae - but should have wiped out your bio-filters at the same time - unless you switched them off? What were your water parameters after the treatment - any signs of nitrite spike - suggesting re-start of your bio-film inside your filters?

    Also did you followed with large water exchanges? Because they claim it remains residual for 4 - to 12 weeks or until used during the eradication of bacteria, fungus and viruses / bio-film - so I wonder how do you find out if it is all gone - and thus safe to restart your filters or when still to keep water exchanges.....

    I apologize for many questions - but I am really curious on what was your experience and resulting water parameters after the treatment.

    Thank you for sharing your very valuable experience with us!

    Milaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by milaz View Post
    Hi Kenny,

    Thank you for sharing - very interesting read on what you have done.

    I have followed the link posted by John - about:SuperTab - Chlorine Dioxide


    From what they write there I understand it and it does make - biochemically - sense what they claim - however do not understand, that while it is killing bacteria, fungus, viruses etc. - as it is claimed to enter the cells via bacterial cell wall - so in theory should equally enter the surface cells of gills the same way - so I wonder why it does not damage gills of koi?!? - their most sensitive tissue pumping through it a of of water with the Chlorine - dioxide in it as well? Maybe the mucus layer protect them?

    Also in the last paragraph they explicitly comment on the fact, that it specifically kills also bio-film in the treated water = so it must be killing off also the bio-film in pond filters at the same time - this explains your positive side effect on algae - but should have wiped out your bio-filters at the same time - unless you switched them off? What were your water parameters after the treatment - any signs of nitrite spike - suggesting re-start of your bio-film inside your filters?

    Also did you followed with large water exchanges? Because they claim it remains residual for 4 - to 12 weeks or until used during the eradication of bacteria, fungus and viruses / bio-film - so I wonder how do you find out if it is all gone - and thus safe to restart your filters or when still to keep water exchanges.....

    I apologize for many questions - but I am really curious on what was your experience and resulting water parameters after the treatment.

    Thank you for sharing your very valuable experience with us!

    Milaz
    Milaz,

    I add the SuperTab in weekly doses, I actually make up 10 litres at a time (one tablet) in a watering can and use 2.5 litres every week. It keeps OK according to the instructions. I run a gravity fed AEM Easydrum as the first stage of filtration out of my 18,000 litre pond. This then outputs through a couple of 200 litre blue barrels containing K1 and into my sump which contains around 2000 litres of water. The sump also contains some Anoxic baskets. The water pumped back into the pond goes through a 60 litre blue barrel with Sera Siporax (and my pond heater) inside. The pond itself has more anoxic baskets which contain many plants and is fairly well stocked, I have used Anoxic since day 1. I have seven biggish fish at around 35-40cm and a load of wee fish bringing the total to around 35. I trickle water into the pond continuously which overflows out of the sump to waste but I have a small leak in the pond somewhere that I cannot find which also lets out some water.

    When I first added the Drum I found that the blue barrels were pretty redundant, even though I was cleaning them there was little or no dirt coming out of the waste. I think the AEM Drum was just doing a great job. I think this to be true in light of the fact that my pond has never been clearer and I could (and still can) see all the way down to my bottom drain at 7.5 feet deep for the first time since I put the fish in.

    There may be every chance that the blue barrels stopped working biologically when I added the SuperTab but I think they were fairly redundant in any case. Feeling that the pond is massively overfiltered now. The water parameters didn't change but then they never have and I have used a number of test kits. I have a problem with the pH level which I probably don't keep on top of enough (adding Bicarbonate of Soda) but Nitrogen levels have been very low. The fish seemed super happy last year although I had a period where flashing re-occurred down to me forgetting to add my SuperTab solution for a few weeks.

    Supertab can also be used in swimming pools for humans but from their write up they say it needs to be much stronger, and maybe for the Koi the same applies i.e. if it was stronger the Koi would be adversely affected.. On the face of it for me so far it seems like a great product and in a way I feel that sometimes I have to trust what the professionals (Air Aqua and my local Koi dealer) are saying.

    Kenny

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