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    Blue-Eco Buyer beware !!

    Having spent now almost £1,000 on a Blue-eco pump as an economical alternative, I am having to replace before fish start dying!
    First I purchased as recommended a 240 model only to find to unlock timer functionality I was required to pay an additional €100.
    But the pump lacked performance as the head is only calculated at 7.0M compared to old pump at 9.5M
    Advised to spend a further €100 send back to Holland and have upgraded to a 320 model, still the programmer is locked for timer functionality.
    Cleaned bead filter last Monday today returned from business trip Friday no water coming through filter.
    Blue-eco 240 or 320 are simply not powerful enough to push water through a bead filter. DO NOT BUY is my strong advise. having spent £1,000 I have to replace.



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    What Bead are you running with this?

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    I've got a 320 pushing water through an EB60, uv and heat pump with no problems at all.


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    I run a blue eco 320 myself, I have measured the flow I get at certain running watts and to be honest it’s pretty close to their advertised graphs.
    It’s been running almost a year now with no problems at all and saving me money every month.
    Well worth the money in my view.

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    and ive got two of these on order....................

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    Blue-Eco Buyer beware !!

    I would definitely buy them again Ian. Bear in mind until you activate them over the internet (free of charge and only takes a couple of minutes) they don't run at full speed.


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    wow high tec pumps then. i like plug and play better lol i can understand them even if more too run lol

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    I'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to filters and pumps etc. but I have no idea how you'd correctly size a pump (I hate guessing) so variable flow for me every time

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    The opening post of this thread bothers me because it is very negative and basically slagging off these pumps as not fit for purpose. Many members some of whom have posted above own these and find them excellent.

    It sounds to me like Andrew has simply not installed his effectively (yet), and that he needs to run some tests on his pump to measure what output the pump can deliver to various head heights without the bead connected to the end. John's advice about registering the pump online so it can deliver the max flow is clearly important. This is a clever high tech pump and instructions need to be carefully followed to get the most out of it. If the pump is defective then it's a simple warranty issue best taken up with whoever sold the pump.

    I don't think it's very fair on the manufacturer to start a thread basically suggesting the product is a pile of crap (which will come up on Google searches) when that is simply not true and you hadn't even asked for advice here from fellow owners yet. Sorry, just my opinion, I'll stick my neck back in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    The opening post of this thread bothers me because it is very negative and basically slagging off these pumps as not fit for purpose. Many members some of whom have posted above own these and find them excellent.

    It sounds to me like Andrew has simply not installed his effectively (yet), and that he needs to run some tests on his pump to measure what output the pump can deliver to various head heights without the bead connected to the end. John's advice about registering the pump online so it can deliver the max flow is clearly important. This is a clever high tech pump and instructions need to be carefully followed to get the most out of it. If the pump is defective then it's a simple warranty issue best taken up with whoever sold the pump.

    I don't think it's very fair on the manufacturer to start a thread basically suggesting the product is a pile of crap (which will come up on Google searches) when that is simply not true and you hadn't even asked for advice here from fellow owners yet. Sorry, just my opinion, I'll stick my neck back in now.
    well said Lara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian parker View Post
    and ive got two of these on order....................
    You won’t be disappointed

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    Exclamation Blue eco pump costly

    While I can't really agree with the fact of not having enough flow I do think the manufacturer has withheld a bit of information in the advertisement. The first being the fact of an economical alternative. That it is except that besides the pump being variable speed and wattage the controller, is not, eats up 320 watts constantly. Electricity cost was my main reason for purchasing this pump and getting rid of my old Oase 40000 (630 watts). My electricity bill has risen since installing the pump.
    Additionally the timer function must be purchased separately for €100. This was also not mentioned. The old adage stands true.....let the buyer beware! Considering the initial cost of replacing my old pump with the new Blue Eco I really can't say it was worth the outlay. But, if I were building a new koi pond with a totally new setup this would most likely be a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    While I can't really agree with the fact of not having enough flow I do think the manufacturer has withheld a bit of information in the advertisement. The first being the fact of an economical alternative. That it is except that besides the pump being variable speed and wattage the controller, is not, eats up 320 watts constantly. Electricity cost was my main reason for purchasing this pump and getting rid of my old Oase 40000 (630 watts). My electricity bill has risen since installing the pump.
    Additionally the timer function must be purchased separately for €100. This was also not mentioned. The old adage stands true.....let the buyer beware! Considering the initial cost of replacing my old pump with the new Blue Eco I really can't say it was worth the outlay. But, if I were building a new koi pond with a totally new setup this would most likely be a good choice.
    this seems wierd, are you sure about the power usage ?

    it's a true sinus inverter, in other words it's actualy changing the frequency the correct way to avoid just burning off all the power you reduced into heat.

    an easy way to test it is to see if the temperature is increasing on the control unit, since if it's not doing a proper frequency modulation the control unit will increase dramaticly in temperature (in this case around 300 watts)

    i have one sitting that i will use for my indoor tank (320 model) and i will sertainly test this, but i am pretty sure it actualy does what it says on the box since the controller is using the same way of changing speed as the industry uses.

    i work with 3.000.000 watts inverters on a daily basis and in thouse it is kinda important that when you reduce the speed and power by 50% it actualy is reduced.

    that being said, if you reduce the speed but increase the torque you will increase the power consumption, so if you have a pump running at it's max head and you reduce the speed of the pump it will still try to push the water thru to system, and thefore use the same amount of power.

    so what system are you running ?? if you have a 320watt pump with a 12 meter 1" pressure hose i am pretty sure your pump is working overtime, and the only way to can fix that it to increase the pipe diameter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    While I can't really agree with the fact of not having enough flow I do think the manufacturer has withheld a bit of information in the advertisement. The first being the fact of an economical alternative. That it is except that besides the pump being variable speed and wattage the controller, is not, eats up 320 watts constantly. Electricity cost was my main reason for purchasing this pump and getting rid of my old Oase 40000 (630 watts). My electricity bill has risen since installing the pump.
    Additionally the timer function must be purchased separately for €100. This was also not mentioned. The old adage stands true.....let the buyer beware! Considering the initial cost of replacing my old pump with the new Blue Eco I really can't say it was worth the outlay. But, if I were building a new koi pond with a totally new setup this would most likely be a good choice.
    You could fit an electricity monitor to your pond supply, there not expensive £20-£30 then take note of the wattage reading, turn off the blue eco and compare the two.
    It maybe something else that has caused your electric bill to rise.

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    Thanks, that's certainly worth a try. I am certain though that my costs have risen since installing the pump and I haven't had anything else running. I'll have to monitor it more closely.

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    Yamadori, you're not Andrew are you? Same phraseology and same complaint!
    How can a 320w max pump use more electricity than a 630w?

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    I think so Lara! 5 months on and the same post more or less
    1630 Gallon raised pond
    4" 'Avenue' bottom drain
    Estro sieve
    Econobead EB60 bead filter
    Sequence 18000 pump, 6000 pump on skimmer line
    Elecro 2kW in-line heater
    Evolution Aqua 70 air pump
    Standard wall skimmer
    Hozelock Vorton 55watt UV
    and some nice koi

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    No Lara, I am not Andrew but this is obviously not an isolated incident. And why does it use more than a 630 watt pump? IN my estimation it's quite simple, running the pump at around 400 watts for the summer months with a controler that demands 320 watts. Put them all together and.......you do the math.

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    I use two 320,s on my showers and I,m very happy with their performance and what (excuse the pun) their costing me.

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    I'm still very happy with mine too.
    And watt THEY'RE costing me


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