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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    No Lara, I am not Andrew but this is obviously not an isolated incident. And why does it use more than a 630 watt pump? IN my estimation it's quite simple, running the pump at around 400 watts for the summer months with a controler that demands 320 watts. Put them all together and.......you do the math.
    I find it hard to believe that the controller alone is consuming 320 watts. I would have thought that the 320 refers to the maximum wattage that the pump including he controller would draw and obviously if the pump wattage/speed was reduced then it would draw less. Have you connected a power monitor to check what the wattage is.

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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Big_al View Post
    I find it hard to believe that the controller alone is consuming 320 watts. I would have thought that the 320 refers to the maximum wattage that the pump including he controller would draw and obviously if the pump wattage/speed was reduced then it would draw less. Have you connected a power monitor to check what the wattage is.

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    I'm certain you're right Al, the controller shows the wattage the pump is drawing, the controller itself will draw almost nothing.
    What my pumps say they're drawing ties in with my electric meter.
    You can turn the pumps down, at just over 300w I'm pumping about 200 litres per minute . At about 225w I'm pumping about 150 litres per minute. That's on a line with about a 1.5m head and way too many bends and a heat pump. The line with less restrictions (but the same head) gives me about 25% more flow for the same power draw.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    No Lara, I am not Andrew but this is obviously not an isolated incident. And why does it use more than a 630 watt pump? IN my estimation it's quite simple, running the pump at around 400 watts for the summer months with a controler that demands 320 watts. Put them all together and.......you do the math.
    How odd that you would come on here as a brand new registered user, just to slag off Blue Eco pumps, just like Andrew. You both seem very keen on your "buyer beware" slogan too don't you

    My maths are fine. In the UK we say maths
    If you think your pump is using more watts than it's maximum then it is entirely possible you are mistaken, you need to check this as others have said with a meter.

    What are you running from your Blue Eco pump? What diameter is the pipe work and how long is the pipe run? Are you still having problems with your flow?

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    Lara, I apologize for the misspelling of "maths". I didn't realize there was a time requirement to "slag", as you say, on blue Eco pumps. I wasn't slagging on anyone, just making a statement which is the right of anyone using this forum. That's what it's all about, isn't it? Try not to be so pompous and paranoid unless you're worried about the survival of blue Eco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    Lara, I apologize for the misspelling of "maths". I didn't realize there was a time requirement to "slag", as you say, on blue Eco pumps. I wasn't slagging on anyone, just making a statement which is the right of anyone using this forum. That's what it's all about, isn't it? Try not to be so pompous and paranoid unless you're worried about the survival of blue Eco.
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    The problem with these type of posts is that its only one users (possibly two) opinions / fact / statement what ever you want to call it that these pumps are crap and buyers should beware

    Its totally unfair that any manufacturer can have very negative posts written about them and there products on the internet with nothing actually being 100 % fact and very often its down to user error or expecting to much from a product and nothing to do with item .

    If perceived problems occur it should be dealt with direct through the manufacturer and trading standards not on forums .
    I see these type of posts all the time on the internet and often its an end user who has fell out with a supplier / dealer and wants the whole world to know of there problem often through sheer frustration

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    Agreed Mel

    I have no personal links to Blue Eco pumps, and don't even own one. But I think I can tell the difference between a genuine forum member asking for some advice with their problem, and someone who has only come onto the forum to use it as a soap box for their personal axe to grind.

    Perhaps if you could answer the questions about your set up Yamadori, someone could actually make some helpful suggestions. There are several very knowledgeable Blue Eco users on here.

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    This guy may have googled blue Eco pump cost and has seen the post and felt the need to add his experience of the pump,he may well be mistaken in his findings regarding its power consumption, and may just have made a fool of himself.

    I agree that the original post isn't the right way to go about things,but giving this guy crap over an assumption he is the guy who started the thread,isn't why this forum is so attractive to people.

    I'm not entirely sure how the controller could be using 320watts but if that's what the guy says it's using then we only have his word for it.

    Hopefully yamadori will provide some evidence to his claims,but in the mean time I just can't see it for myself either.

  9. #29
    The controller tells you the watts the pump is pulling. 320 watts is the max a Blue Eco 320 will draw in normal running. The controller is not using 320 itself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKitching View Post
    The controller tells you the watts the pump is pulling. 320 watts is the max a Blue Eco 320 will draw in normal running. The controller is not using 320 itself.


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    Completely agree,I'm considering a blue Eco on my skimmer line when I build the pond,hence the remark about proof being required,well at least for me anyway.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Wanna veccy View Post
    This guy may have googled blue Eco pump cost and has seen the post and felt the need to add his experience of the pump,he may well be mistaken in his findings regarding its power consumption, and may just have made a fool of himself.

    I agree that the original post isn't the right way to go about things,but giving this guy crap over an assumption he is the guy who started the thread,isn't why this forum is so attractive to people.

    I'm not entirely sure how the controller could be using 320watts but if that's what the guy says it's using then we only have his word for it.

    Hopefully yamadori will provide some evidence to his claims,but in the mean time I just can't see it for myself either.
    No, this "guy" did not google the Blue Eco pump. I own one and got this directly out of the owners manual and my own electric meter. If you own one see for yourselves.
    Additionally, I don't really think that new members should be handled in this fashion. The only think I did Google was my original question. The only thing I did get were only a bunch of assumptions. I thought there might be a bit of professionalism here but......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    No, this "guy" did not google the Blue Eco pump. I own one and got this directly out of the owners manual and my own electric meter. If you own one see for yourselves.

    Additionally, I don't really think that new members should be handled in this fashion. The only think I did Google was my original question. The only thing I did get were only a bunch of assumptions. I thought there might be a bit of professionalism here but......

    If you'd asked a question like "is anyone else having this problem" or "can anyone help me" you'd have got a really good response mate.
    Effectively calling anyone who's bought one an idiot probably wasn't your best move
    Why would you expect professionalism from a forum that's 99% amateurs?


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    Well, got me on that one )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    No, this "guy" did not google the Blue Eco pump. I own one and got this directly out of the owners manual and my own electric meter. If you own one see for yourselves.
    Additionally, I don't really think that new members should be handled in this fashion. The only think I did Google was my original question. The only thing I did get were only a bunch of assumptions. I thought there might be a bit of professionalism here but......
    Ok so you didn't use google to find a thread that had no activity for five months,but you used google for your original question.what was your original question? All you have done is state that buyers should beware because your using more watts than your previous pump was,so that makes the blue eco not so economical,you haven't stated what blue eco you have. Then in your original post you contradict your own argument by saying "But, if I were building a new koi pond with a totally new setup this would most likely be a good choice."
    So why on a new build would a blue eco be a good choice?

    The beauty of this forum in my eyes is that the vast majority are not professionals but hobbyists,if you require professionalism that would have to come from the manufacturer not a chat forum.

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    Basically all I was saying is what johnkitching said in his last post not trying to pick a side or jump on your back.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Yamadori View Post
    Well, got me on that one )
    Then let's start again

    It's hard to believe it's pulling more power than your old 630w pump if it was a straight swap.
    What makes you think it is?
    Have you tried something like this to confirm what power you're actually pulling?
    13A Plug In Energy Saving Monitor | Maplin
    If it is pulling lots more than the controller says I'd say you have a faulty one.

  17. #37
    i can fully understand your frustration and upset with this pump, but I think you may of vented off not thinking how your post could and was taken by some on here. this was not ment to upset you more, but help you understand what some people thought how your first post in a new forum could be read. anyway water under the bridge now I hope. shame not though the pump lol.

    I am shocked by the facts you have given over the problems your having and wonder if you have some how got a bad batch sent to you. I have only come across one other person with a problem just like your having. but near found out what was wrong with the pump as he never fallowed up on the forum about it. as said so many people have that same pump and find it very good and worth the money in their opinion. I say theirs as not everyone thinks the same way. anyway hope you work out what the problem is and you can let everyone on here know the outcome.

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    Well next year once I have paid off this years pond build I will be uprating my pumps for my head filter and bakki shower to blue Eco pumps. That's all I have to say one persons bad experience over thousands of happy users will not put me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavsti555 View Post
    Well next year once I have paid off this years pond build I will be uprating my pumps for my head filter and bakki shower to blue Eco pumps. That's all I have to say one persons bad experience over thousands of happy users will not put me off.
    You won't be disappointed

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    ive used two 320,s for the last nine month and their performance is fantastic

 

 
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