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    Hello im thinking of buying one of these AEM drums from King Lyns Koi. How would everyone rate these filters now people have had them running for a while. Understand there has been teething problems but are they worth £1000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregHurst View Post
    Hello im thinking of buying one of these AEM drums from King Lyns Koi. How would everyone rate these filters now people have had them running for a while. Understand there has been teething problems but are they worth £1000.
    Greg,
    Go back to the previous page and you'll see wheelie has posted very clearly why you shouldn't do it. At least not from the retail outlet you mentioned anyway.

    There are plenty of others who sell the drum for the same price and will give you your money's worth.

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    As a value proposition they are hard to beat!

    Drum + pump + UV for 3 figures

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  7. #564
    Okay retailers aside the preformance of the drum is it worth £1000. I understand this is considerably cheap in the drum market. But £1000 is exceeding my budget. I will be willing to buy it with some re assurnace on the preformance of the drum. If i purchase one i will do all the modifications that people have suggested. eg. securing the nut and reiforce the lid provided and perhaps plumb it directly into the mains.

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  9. #565
    There isn't a drum on the market that's even close to this price point.
    So if you're after a drum for 1000 or less, it's really your only choice unless you want to make one yourself (I read on another thread it's approx 600 quid for parts + tools + other bits n bobs + time. Note too the DIY version doesn't include an amalgam UV)

    Is the mechanical filtration adequate - yes
    is it relatively easy to set up - yes
    does it clear fines - yes
    is there a problem with the lid warping - not on mine (yet), but it seems plenty of others have had issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffee View Post
    There isn't a drum on the market that's even close to this price point.
    So if you're after a drum for 1000 or less, it's really your only choice unless you want to make one yourself (I read on another thread it's approx 600 quid for parts + tools + other bits n bobs + time. Note too the DIY version doesn't include an amalgam UV)

    Is the mechanical filtration adequate - yes
    is it relatively easy to set up - yes
    does it clear fines - yes
    is there a problem with the lid warping - not on mine (yet), but it seems plenty of others have had issues
    I agree with al the above.
    My drum has been installed for a number of weeks without fault and I am very pleased with it.
    It goes into the cleaning cycle about twice an hour for 7 or 8 seconds at most.
    As people gain confidence I suspect the AEM will become the most popular drum in the market.
    At the moment it is quietly doing my job for me (no more climbing in and out of the filter bay to clean filters).
    I thought long and hard before I took the plunge but I am delighted with its performance.👍

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  13. #567
    Mine is running great and I don't have a problem with the working side ,just shame the lid warped ..

    still glad lad I got it and sorted a lid myself so I'm happy now .

    after all like others have said it's cheapish and works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffee View Post
    There isn't a drum on the market that's even close to this price point.
    So if you're after a drum for 1000 or less, it's really your only choice unless you want to make one yourself (I read on another thread it's approx 600 quid for parts + tools + other bits n bobs + time. Note too the DIY version doesn't include an amalgam UV)

    Is the mechanical filtration adequate - yes
    is it relatively easy to set up - yes
    does it clear fines - yes
    is there a problem with the lid warping - not on mine (yet), but it seems plenty of others have had issues
    Agree with the above. Mine has settled down and is working away fine. I had an issue with it overflowing but that is resolved now. I think the float switch is a bit touchy. Really happy with it and the price. I got mine from Kirkys Koi for £995 all in, not even any P&P. Can't beat it. Knock three times and tell him Kenny sent you! https://www.facebook.com/groups/577812139033600/

    Seriously this is the best bit of kit I have bought for my pond after wasting hundreds of pounds on other filters. I always seemed to be aiming for one but just couldn't make myself spend £2.5K when this came along and it seemed OK, well, "haud me back"!

    If the AEM offering was not available I would be building the DIY version by (the fabulous) Wrighty on Youtube (I may do so yet), his is a bit bigger so possibly uses less electricity to clean the same amount of pond but as has been pointed out it doesn't have an Amalgam UV which is a really expensive item (seriously - check it out - circa £300). The AEM high pressure pump looks like a sturdy (and expensive) bit of kit. Wrighties DIY version cost around £500 to build, add in £315 for the UV and whatever the high pressure pump costs and you are looking at similar costings.

    Sometimes you just need to take the plunge or forever regret it! Will it work for you on your pond - who knows!

    Kenny

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregHurst View Post
    Okay retailers aside the preformance of the drum is it worth £1000. I understand this is considerably cheap in the drum market. But £1000 is exceeding my budget. I will be willing to buy it with some re assurnace on the preformance of the drum. If i purchase one i will do all the modifications that people have suggested. eg. securing the nut and reiforce the lid provided and perhaps plumb it directly into the mains.
    You don't need to plumb it into the mains.

    Kenny

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickkyard View Post
    hi guys great info thanks
    am interested in getting a drum filter.i see one on eBay going for £995 but its not the same brand as yours it filtreau not AEM. can anyone help me please
    It is exactly the same drum.

    Kenny

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    Despite the issues with the lid I think AEM have had a positive impact on the Koi market

    Many people cannot afford £2-3K for a drum and from an amateur perspective do those drums really warrant the high price tags ?

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    I agree with the comments above. Despite my problems and lack of customer care I am pleased with the performance. My pond is very clear with fewer fines and very little maintenance. One issue I am having is trying to source replacement UV bulbs for the Filtreau unit, €90 is the cheapest I can find. Plenty of time yet mind you as it shouldn't be needed until next summer at the earliest.

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    £80 for the Amalgam bulb is pretty good, they are supposed to last a while ? (hopefully)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmsims View Post
    £80 for the Amalgam bulb is pretty good, they are supposed to last a while ? (hopefully)
    The manual says 12,000 hrs but I thought I read somewhere it's 20,000 - anyway the ballast will indicate when it's time to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffee View Post
    There isn't a drum on the market that's even close to this price point.
    So if you're after a drum for 1000 or less, it's really your only choice unless you want to make one yourself (I read on another thread it's approx 600 quid for parts + tools + other bits n bobs + time. Note too the DIY version doesn't include an amalgam UV)

    Is the mechanical filtration adequate - yes
    is it relatively easy to set up - yes
    does it clear fines - yes
    is there a problem with the lid warping - not on mine (yet), but it seems plenty of others have had issues
    When you actually compare the AEM drum to the DIY drum is it really worth saving that £400 becuase the diy is cheaper !

    IMO no it isnt.
    Unless you are really competant in the DIY dept then go ahead and make it but for me i think i would life piece of mind and purchase one...
    You could easily make a mistake along the way and ramp up that diy price plus the commercially made one will have a warranty.
    What i would like to a running comparrison between the two now that would be interesting.....

    Also another interesting thought will AEM bring out a newer version within the next 12/18mths
    Last edited by Ant62; 27-07-2017 at 05:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant62 View Post
    When you actually compare the AEM drum to the DIY drum is it really worth saving that £400 becuase the diy is cheaper !

    IMO no it isnt.
    Unless you are really competant in the DIY dept then go ahead and make it but for me i think i would life piece of mind and purchase one...
    You could easily make a mistake along the way and ramp up that diy price plus the commercially made one will have a warranty.
    What i would like to a running comparrison between the two now that would be interesting.....

    Also another interesting thought will AEM bring out a newer version within the next 12/18mths
    ANt,

    The DIY drum is not £400 cheaper, add in the cost of the Amalgam UV (£320).

    Kenny

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    I have been following the discussions on the Aem drum and if i was thinking of getting a drum this is the one i would go for Greg,for the price for a stand alone drum it is good.

    Ok there has been a few teething problems for some,but they are all sorted i think.

    Wouldnt buy from klk as i beleive they charge extra for the pump which should be incl in the price,shop around and you should get a good deal.

    Good luck Greg.
    John

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    https://www.springbankkoi.com/aem-easy-drum-191-p.asp

    £975

    never used them

    The unboxing video mentions the lid issue and has the new style lid

    https://www.facebook.com/Springbankkoiandaquatics/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmsims View Post
    https://www.springbankkoi.com/aem-easy-drum-191-p.asp

    £975

    never used them

    The unboxing video mentions the lid issue and has the new style lid

    https://www.facebook.com/Springbankkoiandaquatics/
    Nice video that
    looking forward to his installation video.
    Hopefully he covers the bits about using an external water source (mains) and also setting of the float system correctly

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    Hi, I have had my gravity fed AEM drum running for a couple of months now and its going perfectly straight out of the box, also got it from Kings Lynn Koi who i have to say were really good to deal with. have read most of this thread about these so will list how the issues with others have affected mine.....
    Have not had to touch the drum drive shaft nut at all.
    The 4.2 bar pump supplied is piped in 1" ABS and connected to the spraybar with a rubber boot, no problem at all.
    The lid has warped and lets out spray mist, I will address this with the supplier, its inside my filter shed so no sun on it.
    Thats about it really, and my pond is crystal clear, I am really pleased.

    Edit, When I bought the drum from Kings Lynn Koi about three months ago, the high pressure cleaning pump was included and I paid about 995 all in without digging out the receipt.
    I missed some of the thread about how the warping lids were changed by the manufacturer, having seen the new lid I think I shall modify my existing lid myself, I dont find it much of a problem anyway as I have a plastic strip tucked along the back to catch the spray.
    As an engineer I looked into the self build drum issues, and I am in a position to get controls made up and parts machined etc but having bought this one I doubt there is much point in the cost or the hassle as the quality of these is very good I think.
    Last edited by Wizzy; 29-07-2017 at 02:24 PM. Reason: update on some facts

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