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Thread: Advice on new pond
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07-04-2014, 01:04 PM #41
Easy Pods are not necessarily the perfect filter for a small-medium koi pond either, they are better for mechanical filtration than they are for bio, and can let through fines.
I bought mine thinking it was the answer to all my dreams (which compared to a pressure filter it is!), but had to make a moving K1 chamber to add to it because I just couldn't feed my fish much without causing a nitrite spike that just wound t go away. I've now got the equivalent of a Nexus 200 with what I've added and am happy with my water, but had I know at the outset the Pod wasn't going to be enough I might have looked at other options (like a second hand Nexus).2016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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07-04-2014, 08:33 PM #42
Hi Ryda
I know how your head is feeling right now! I'm really not far ahead of you with decision making, have only just decided on the filter I am going to use after weighing up price, availabilty etc.
The people on here are great for advice but there are so many options, it's certainly not as easy as I first thought but at the same time I'm finding it a really enjoyable challenge!
My recommendation to you is to read this book:
A Practical Guide to Building and Maintaining a Koi Pond: An Essential Guide to Building and Maintaining Pondmaster: Amazon.co.uk: Keith Holmes, Tony Pitham: Books
I found it great to give me a basic knowledge. It's short and to the point and has loads of diagrams (don't buy it new, price is ridiculous!).
I would check out ebay for your filter to see what you get second hand. The Cloverleaf ones look pretty compact if you're short on space and looks like they do a good job.
HTH
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08-04-2014, 12:20 AM #43
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13-04-2014, 11:43 PM #44
Hi guys. I've been busy as usual researching and asking around (emailing and talking in person to specialists) and I will be going ahead with owning the two butterfly koi.
Apparantly a pump fed filter will cope with the amount of fish including the koi. I've been out and had two pointed out to me. One was a Hozelock (pressure based) which I immediatly remembered ppl here warning me not to get pressure. The 2nd place I went to recommended this one which I believe is gravity. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...A2MYEVYTNLKQFQ
Also struggling to find places in UK that sells butterfly koi. The one place I did visit only had two different colours..
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14-04-2014, 08:32 AM #45
The second filter you mentioned would be much better than the pressure filter however for that amount of money so could buy a much better filter for the fish that would require less maintenance and cleaning. Look on ebay they have many second hand filters on there for cheaper, a second hand easy pod maybe a tiny bit more however would be much better.
About the butterfly koi I have two once is about 15" and is silver and my other one is about 4-5" ans is a sanke ( White red and black) you can find many butterfly koi on ebay and the internet and get delivery. Try the carpco and DC freshwater fishYouTube- https://youtube.com/c/FancyGoldfishFanatics
High end goldfish collector
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14-04-2014, 12:07 PM #46
Both filters you were recommended are totally unsuitable for koi in any volume of water, and are also overpriced for their functionality.
I would find another 'specialist' to get advice from next time
My local aquatics place is linked to a garden centre I visit, and I often find it fascinating to listen to the sales people talking to customers while I'm there. They have huge piles of the Hozelock and similar filters for sale, and are keen to tell their customers how well they will work for them. But if you look at the filtration on the display tanks of Israili koi they have for sale isn't it odd how they are not using any of the products they recommend to the customers on them? Their tanks all have bottom drains and decent gravity fed setups with plenty of bio filtration.
Could it possibly be that there is a lot of profit to be made selling high price small volume branded packages that don't need much advice on setup and take up little storage space in the shop and freight vehicles?
If these seemingly neat and easy solutions were really all they were cracked up to be why would they not use them on their own tanks?
Ok I've had my rant for the day, I feel better now2016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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14-04-2014, 05:09 PM #47
Hi
Pretty much all the advise here is spot on regarding the filter.
Have a look at the secondhand eazy pod in the classified section here, this would filter your pond, alternatively have a look for a small multibay or cloverleaf cl1.
Do not buy a pressure filter.
Also a bottom drain is a very good addition and should be a priority for you to put into your plans.
If your going for a pump fed system then a solid handling pump will help.
Regards Alun.
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