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    Quote Originally Posted by Alburglar View Post
    Buy a tub of silicone grease. Its awesome. It never sets. Just Slather it over whatever rubber seal you're using and thats it.
    Its got me out of loads trouble since someone recommended it to me.
    For rubber seals yes, but not on flexible boots. That will end badly.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by youmustcomply View Post
    For rubber seals yes, but not on flexible boots. That will end badly.,
    Depends on the issue and application. If there is a barb on the hard fitting to stop slippage, then use it if in conjunction with a jubilee clip. If there is a gauge or imperfection in the hard fitting then use the grease to fill the void and re-apply the boot.

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    Can it be added after the pipe has gone on or does it have to be blathered before you join the two ??

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    Its not for joining hard plastic pipes, that would be pvc weld. Its Only to Assist where rubber seals meet a hard surface.
    If you have a leaking pvc weld joint, then you can smother it with pond sealant, lots of them will set under water. Or If you can slide something over the pipe then you could try a rubber sleeve with silicon grease and jubilee clips.

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    Great to meet you today sorry the circumstances weren't different.

    As its a crack in the bio inlet tray the manufacturer if they will replace it I will happily pop back over and help you fit the bypass.

    You also need to remove that pump from the skimmer line. The way they currently have your drum set up is pump fed from the skimmer and gravity fed from the bottom drains. This will be playing havoc with the drum. We know the skimmer is above your filter house so it can be gravity fed anyway.

    Don't lose heart you're so close. Even if the manufacturer won't take it back let me know and we will drain the lot and have a go at repairing the crack.

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    ... Or you could just cut the crappy welded outlet off flush and fit a bulkhead fitting / tank connector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alburglar View Post
    ... Or you could just cut the crappy welded outlet off flush and fit a bulkhead fitting / tank connector.
    £8k worth of filtration still under warranty. I would try contacting the supplier before we think about the repair but that is always an option.

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    ... There seems to be a lot of posts about these plastic welded Joints failing on all sorts of new gear. Skimmers and bottom drains too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave_vr6 View Post
    Great to meet you today sorry the circumstances weren't different.

    As its a crack in the bio inlet tray the manufacturer if they will replace it I will happily pop back over and help you fit the bypass.

    You also need to remove that pump from the skimmer line. The way they currently have your drum set up is pump fed from the skimmer and gravity fed from the bottom drains. This will be playing havoc with the drum. We know the skimmer is above your filter house so it can be gravity fed anyway.

    Don't lose heart you're so close. Even if the manufacturer won't take it back let me know and we will drain the lot and have a go at repairing the crack.

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    Thanks a million Dave - i was really starting to lose heart and thinking of ripping it all out and filling in the pond
    but can now see a light at the end of the tunnel ( hopefully it’s not a train heading straight for me lol)

    I’ll see what the mfr has to say on Monday morning - fingers xd as the retailer doesn’t seem to want to know.

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    A lot of the pipe spigots get damaged by the carrier or the installer putting to much pressure on it or using it as a handle, I've had a few things delivered cracked or damaged, I would say only once was likely to be bad workmanship the rest was the delivery company
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
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    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
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    How would u remedy the prob Roy if the supplier doesn’t replace the unit? Replace the pipe perhaps or try a sealant ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo8003 View Post
    How would u remedy the prob Roy if the supplier doesn’t replace the unit? Replace the pipe perhaps or try a sealant ?
    It depends where the leak is from, if it is from the joint between the spigot and the main unit, I would buy a hot air welder and welding rods and weld it up again, this is something I am going to be doing on my skimmer, which was damaged when I got it, although I didn't find out until it was fiberglassed into place, so it was too late to get it sent back and replaced, obviously this method isn't for everyone, personally it is something I would like to learn how to do anyway, so £50 on the welder wouldn't be as upsetting as it would for some people.
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    So, just called mfr today (Burtons aquatics) who says retailer must have overtightened bio filter or damaged it in transit . He suggests putting a rubber boot on it with gold seal inside. Says not to try other sealants etc as they could eat into the polypropylene. Personally I think its a bit close to the weld to remedy with a boot but maybe he'll be able to better advise when he comes out to look at drum filter: as the spindle for drum came away from the motor (yet again) when dave was out on Saturday plus it still leaks from the factory fit pipes. Needless to say, not too impressed so far by the quality of their equipment or the gallons its using per wash its using every 20-30 minutes, but lets see what their back-up is like before judging. will keep you posted. (the mfr btw is Burtons aquatics)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo8003 View Post
    So, just called mfr today (Burtons aquatics) who says retailer must have overtightened bio filter or damaged it in transit . He suggests putting a rubber boot on it with gold seal inside. Says not to try other sealants etc as they could eat into the polypropylene. Personally I think its a bit close to the weld to remedy with a boot but maybe he'll be able to better advise when he comes out to look at drum filter: as the spindle for drum came away from the motor (yet again) when dave was out on Saturday plus it still leaks from the factory fit pipes. Needless to say, not too impressed so far by the quality of their equipment or the gallons its using per wash its using every 20-30 minutes, but lets see what their back-up is like before judging. will keep you posted. (the mfr btw is Burtons aquatics)
    It's too close to the weld for sealant and a boot. Given the scrape down the bio I think something was dropped onto the connector in transit.

    Happy days once the drum is sorted we will empty the bio completely get all your media out and clean the bloody thing. Due to your drum issues and you using the bypass to prime your system. This has sent all the crap in your bio and the organic matter breaking down in there will cause you no end of bacterial issues down the road.

    We can always sort the leak with a 4" one of these.

    Main concern is them fixing the drum.

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    Cheers Dave now I see what you mean and yes it’d be great to get the bio cleaned out esp if it’s lijely to cause probs further down the road. Cheers for your guidance again

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    Hi Steve,

    how have you got on with manufacturer support? Also, how old / when did you purchase your drum? Hope it’s all sorted for you soon. And a big thumbs up to Dave for the community support.

    Cheers

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    Hi Bazza - mfr came up from Kent and fitted a bush in the motor spindle of the rotary drum but that still hasn’t done the trick as the spindle keeps coming loose so spins but leave the drum static .
    Sadly they also said there’s not much they can do for me on the biofilter as they feel the retailer damaged it and I should take it up with them ; not getting much change there either as the retailer has said if I deinstall everything they’ll give me a refund but I’m concerned I’ll end up with no filters and no money tbh so have asked for money to be refunded to solic’s and I’ll reinstall equip following which solic will release the money so we’re both covered !!

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    Hi Stevo,

    I guess it was good that the manufacturer came out but the spindle drive issue sounds a bit worrying, what are they going to do about that?

    I kind of get the issue with he damaged bio filter, but at least you have an option for a refund / replacement on that. Would it also be worth looking at fitting one of the tank filters the guys have suggested and ask for a partial refund from the retailer, probably easier on all parties?

    How old is the drum and how long before you started having motor drive issues?

    Thanks

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    sorry to hear of all your troubles,not sounding good for manufacturer reliability,arent burtons who evolve have just started working with?? i would be looking at coming away from the dealer and manufacturer totally and go somewhere else,hope you get it sorted,also how did you pay,if you paid by credit card your bank can recover the money for you due to the issues,,,,andi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    sorry to hear of all your troubles,not sounding good for manufacturer reliability,arent burtons who evolve have just started working with?? i would be looking at coming away from the dealer and manufacturer totally and go somewhere else,hope you get it sorted,also how did you pay,if you paid by credit card your bank can recover the money for you due to the issues,,,,andi
    Hi Andi, regrettably I paid by direct transfer not credit card.

    I would also say that as a word of caution for anyone considering buying a drum filter, go for one that doesn't have linkages to the drum as that appears to be the weak point. Also there's one major design drawback with drum filters if this one is anything to go by,. The wash cycle is activated by the water level dropping in the clean chamber once solids stop water passing thru the drum screen. However that also means that if the flow into your filter slows for any reason (a bit of a blockage in the bd's for instance) then the water level in the drum will drop, which tells the drum to go into wash cycle after wash cycle and won't stop until the water level increases (which it can't of course if you have a blockage) This can totally drain your pond FAST and the auto top up won't help as it ejects water faster than it can come in.

 

 
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