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    Returns and skimmer placement

    Where on this pond could a put a skimmer and shower and a filter return (filter is gravity return) any help or pointers please

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    Thought of this placement? Filter return will be plain black pipe so thought I could angle it round to point at shower then hope shower would follow the curve of the pond. And somewhere want to fit over flow

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    No problem with placement BUT I would definitely think out making it gravity fed you will regret it at a later date


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    Quote Originally Posted by richsugden View Post
    No problem with placement BUT I would definitely think out making it gravity fed you will regret it at a later date


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    I do regret it. that is a old picture just for an idea of the shape and what am working with. Keep thinking about undermining and still fitting bd but that will have to wait for now . I have a filter running now but just want to add skimmer and shower line

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    Looks just like my pond. Except i have a top pond. Same shape. And brickwork. Looks nice.

    I have a shute which is like a shower. I don t mean filter.
    As in return to the pond.
    Skimmer and 2 x returns underneath my skimmer. One going one way and one the other way.
    I operate one at a time. But swap so as not to have a deadleg.

    It works the system of cleaning.
    I agree a bottom drain is a must.
    In a pond. And with the air this cleans the bottom. Right now the shute aint turned on. Waiting to repair the fiber glass to shute.
    The returns on mine are 2 feet of bottom 6 feet deep.
    As said under skimmer.
    Here is a photo.
    Also i took into consideration wind blowing across my pond surface.


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    move shower to back left corner facing towards bottom left and have gravity return bottom left flat wall so it pushes round bend into skimmer in right top corner,but as said a bd would be a better idea,,,,andi

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    This is what mine looks like, its easier to see on a plan drawing, agree with everyone a Bottom Drain is a must and you will regret not doing it, I had a pond without a bottom drain and it was a pain in the ass

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    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Cheers . Roy . I know wish I had one put in but didn't. Pond has been running around 6/7 months . Its just to make best a bad pond ha . Excuse mess . Just struggling to work out best places with really only to sides to work with . Seating at top left. Filter boxed off bottom right

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    you could always fit a retro bd and plumb through back wall or under from outside of pond on back left wall,would only mean pulling liner away in that spot to fit a tank connector to liner, andi

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    That's s good ideal really a Like that . Could put a blade and t to do mid return ? Still would be lost on placements .

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    All I can fit between pond fence is pipe work and UV. Want a shower is possible but not to close to seating for noise and splash . The more I look the more I realise how badly thought out this pond was ha

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    you could do it like this,sorry about the drawing lol,andi green filter,,blue shower,brown skimmer, red is bd pipework and purple is return pipe from filter to shower and underwater return opposite filter,
    Attached Images Attached Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    you could do it like this,sorry about the drawing lol,andi green filter,,blue shower,brown skimmer, red is bd pipework and purple is return pipe from filter to shower and underwater return opposite filter,
    Is that AutoCAD?
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    never used CAD lol,im old skool so PAINT hahaha, andi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    you could do it like this,sorry about the drawing lol,andi green filter,,blue shower,brown skimmer, red is bd pipework and purple is return pipe from filter to shower and underwater return opposite filter,
    Brilliant picture give that an a* mine only made an b grade Haha. Like the idea tho andi think that'll work very well we could be on to a winner there

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    Agree retro bottom drain.

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    I had a retro bottom drain in my old pond, it made quite a difference, more so with cleaning than anything else, I was forever taking the pump out to clean it
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Sorry a bit slow here my heads all over and up other parts of my self . Can A retro bd can be made gravity by going through the wall

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    Looks like you've thrown ''your toys'' out the pram again Johnathan .
    Temper, temper !!!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Looks like you've thrown ''your toys'' out the pram again Johnathan .
    Temper, temper !!!! lol
    No Anne not at all my head has never worked my hand do all the work Haha

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