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    No hard feelings at all, yes it's the 20000 so it truly is a monster. Going to be some fun digging that into the ground to be at pond fill level. Just a quick update thanks to Chris I have source my eazypod to run off the skimmer line. Still lots to do in the house but the iminent pond build is vastly approaching. Guys you've all been super welcoming and been an absolute font of knowledge.

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    Guys quick question. I’m going for the yamitsu 110 algae master courtesy of Chris. Shall I run my UV off my slimmer or main line do you think?

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    The slower the flow through the uv the better

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    Brill thank you so I'll run the UV after the pod

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    I've been enquiring about mini diggers today guys, the house is moving quickly with the plasterer starting on Monday. I've been quoted around £80 per day for the digger if I operate it myself or £250 that's the digger with an operator for a day. I'm edging towards the latter as 1. I've never driven or operated a digger 2. It will probably take me a few days 3. I want the pond, filter pit and trench for the waste lines to be done neatly and accurately.
    I know it's hard to say but do you think an operator will get all that done in a day? I'm sure there are others that have had somebody dig there ponds with a digger.
    Happy weekend!!

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    How are you moving soil ? Digging can be done very quickly if the right driver is on it but unless to can pile next to pond for grab wagon labour . I've seen us on jobs with 3 wheelbarrows on the go and the digger still sitting idle

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    The great thing is that I will be using the spare soil around the garden as we currently have a rockery that we will be building a retaining wall very close by and then use the soil to level the garden. So the operator can dig and dump literally 6-8ft away from the closest edge of the pond.

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    Ah magic then that's ideal if the access allows try a 2 ton digger so much stronger and quicker compared to the 1tons . Remember no pond is to be built without vast amounts of pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Ah magic then that's ideal if the access allows try a 2 ton digger so much stronger and quicker compared to the 1tons . Remember no pond is to be built without vast amounts of pictures

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    I know right, back breaking stuff moving that much soil all the way to the front for a grabber. Yes the access is hardly restricted so a 2 tonne it will be . Honestly I cannot wait to take hundreds of pictures for you guys to see!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom G20 View Post
    I know right, back breaking stuff moving that much soil all the way to the front for a grabber. Yes the access is hardly restricted so a 2 tonne it will be . Honestly I cannot wait to take hundreds of pictures for you guys to see!!
    AJM is spot on. when I had a rebuild. I didn't take into consideration on getting rid of the rubbish. ended up with 3 x 16 ton grab trucks. not just soil. pallets bags lots of stuff. and I already had a hole in the ground to 5 feet deep
    12 foot length and 12 foot width. soon builds up. good luck with the build. and lots of photo s
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    Yeah when I helped build my dads pond we had the same and my pond will be bigger. I’m hoping it all works out well because we have a good stretch of around 20ft to level anything left over I will use to build a nice featured natural waterfall. Photos to come once the carnage begins promise. Cheers Fred

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    IMG_0752.jpg

    Gives you guys a bit of an idea. So the pond will be going towards the right of where the table and chairs have been placed. The rockery will be the stretch that we will be raising. Lots of work but if it turns out the way I envision it, should look awesome. Fingers crossed!!


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    I don't think your driver will have any problem doing that in a day provided he doesn't have to shift the soil too far or sit around whilst you fiddle about fitting pipes etc.

    Depends a bit on your ground conditions but worth thinking about rescuing top soil, the stuff you take out from a couple of feet down can be really difficult to garden on.
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    i have a small jcb, and dug my own, its 5500 gallons.
    Depends how good the driver is, how good access he has all around the pond, how far hes got to tip or move the spoil.
    I usually hire a power barrow, they hold half a ton, small petrol engine, fill it with the digger, drive to your waste location and hydraulic tip, quiet cheap for a day and worth its weight in gold.

    I would think even if the driver is brilliant you will still have to tidy it up when hes done tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pip895 View Post
    I don't think your driver will have any problem doing that in a day provided he doesn't have to shift the soil too far or sit around whilst you fiddle about fitting pipes etc.

    Depends a bit on your ground conditions but worth thinking about rescuing top soil, the stuff you take out from a couple of feet down can be really difficult to garden on.
    Thats what I was thinking and no I'll ask him to shift the masses of earth and I'll neaten it up and hand dig all the areas for my bottom drain and plumbing etc.
    Yeah no doubt it will be clay and very rocky ground after a few feet, as my dads house is only 5 minutes away and that was the same. Definitely ask him to pile the top soil separate to the sandy/clay so we have nice planting soil.
    Again thanks for the heads up I didn't even think about the higher quality top soil

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    Quote Originally Posted by familyman View Post
    i have a small jcb, and dug my own, its 5500 gallons.
    Depends how good the driver is, how good access he has all around the pond, how far hes got to tip or move the spoil.
    I usually hire a power barrow, they hold half a ton, small petrol engine, fill it with the digger, drive to your waste location and hydraulic tip, quiet cheap for a day and worth its weight in gold.

    I would think even if the driver is brilliant you will still have to tidy it up when hes done tbh.
    Yes the access will be very clear for him I will be clearing all plants bushes and rockery stones prior to him arriving. How long did it take you to dig yours I will neaten up and shape by hand, just didn't fancy moving the body of the soil myself.
    I'll have to enquire about the power barrow that sounds like a back saver!! Thanks again you guys are awesome

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    Was thinking the same with keeping the top soil as not hard to do.
    I dug my own pond out with a small digger but took me too long to get used to it so I had to hire it for a second day and that was enough.
    So 1 day should easily do it for you,I would mark out the area to be dug with a spray paint or similar,you will piss it in a day Dom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Was thinking the same with keeping the top soil as not hard to do.
    I dug my own pond out with a small digger but took me too long to get used to it so I had to hire it for a second day and that was enough.
    So 1 day should easily do it for you,I would mark out the area to be dug with a spray paint or similar,you will piss it in a day Dom.
    thanks John fills me with confidence, yeah I'll end up ripping the fence out if I do it myself so worth paying an operator. Definitely going to use the spray paint to mark everything out. I can't wait to get cracking on it

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    My own Koi pond build

    We’ve got a power barrow (skip loader) at my place at the mo and it holds around 3 barrows full and has a tilt and tip on it; it’s a god send. Doesn’t cost a lot for the week, about £100 I think, and we’ve moved around 5 tons of rubble so far.

    Admittedly not pond waste, as it’s for renovating the house, but I wish I would have had it when I did the pond. Would’ve saved hours & hours of barrowing.

    It tears up the ground as it’s on tracks, but that’s an easy fix later. My own Koi pond build

    It’s also good in reverse. Bringing stone, sand, blocks, etc from the front of the house to the back where we need them. My barrow hasn’t moved for weeks because of having it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    We’ve got a power barrow (skip loader) at my place at the mo and it holds around 3 barrows full and has a tilt and tip on it; it’s a god send. Doesn’t cost a lot for the week, about £100 I think, and we’ve moved around 5 tons of rubble so far.

    Admittedly not pond waste, as it’s for renovated the house, but I wish I would have had it when I did the pond. Would’ve saved hours & hours of barrowing.

    It tears up the ground as it’s on tracks, but that’s an easy fix later. My own Koi pond build

    It’s also good in reverse. Bringing stone, sand, blocks, etc from the front of the house to the back where we need them. My barrow hasn’t moved for weeks because of having it.
    Great shout Gray we have got hundreds of large rocks for edging and waterfall and loads of blocks for the filter pit never mind the soil and £100 for a week is a quality price!

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