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03-12-2018, 02:14 PM #441
Rubber boots are like anything else, you get what you pay for! Cheap rubber boots are exactly that - cheap rubber boots. The problem being that normal punters don't know the difference between the different brands and would rely on a person selling it to them to give them the best product and that doesn't happen. Most customers just want the cheapest! The best brands I have used have been Flexseal and Fernco, (both actually the same company, Flexseal being in the UK). What really irks me are companies selling products online as Flexseal and sending out another less expensive variety e.g. All Gain (made in Taiwan). I also like to buy local so "Made In Barnsley" feels pretty local to me.
Any rubber boots however are not designed for high pressure (4 bar or around 60 PSI on my drum pump output) and should be avoided.
Kenny
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03-12-2018, 02:17 PM #442
Yes I do , I put in a swept tee away from the flow from the pump thinking that it would push the water coming down the skimmer line through and back into the pond creating a draw but I’ve been proved very wrong. Think the plans will be to pump it up into inlet of drum
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03-12-2018, 02:18 PM #443
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03-12-2018, 02:22 PM #444
Last edited by Handy Kenny; 03-12-2018 at 02:31 PM.
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03-12-2018, 02:24 PM #445
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03-12-2018, 02:34 PM #446
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03-12-2018, 02:38 PM #447
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03-12-2018, 03:06 PM #448
Current set up which is obviously not working
Easy fix though, I’ll run a line through a pump up into the open tee on one off the bottom drain inlets to the drum
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03-12-2018, 03:08 PM #449
Don’t know why that last pic was upside down?
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03-12-2018, 03:29 PM #450
Ah yes, I can see why that wouldn't work. Water coming out of the pump will be at a greater pressure than the water in the skimmer pipework, so will take the path of least resistance and go there.
You would probably get a lot more flow out of your skimmer mouth than the other branch of the return pipe because of water at depth having more pressure also.
If the skimmer pipework is 2" or 1.5" then I would pump it somewhere, and if 3" I would gravity feed it into the drum via an additional tank connector. That's a pretty easy mod to do.
There are lots of advantages to having the skimmer line as a separate line, such as being able to turn it off at feed times. But personally I am a lazy git and the whole point of having a drum is having something that cleans itself, so the last thing I wanted to do was have to clean out something in the skimmer mouth or a second filter. Your moves may vary!
Pumping from skimmer to drum could work. I guess if the main pump turned off then this water would go back down the BD lines into the pond, so you shouldn't get an overflow situation. I've not seen anyone actually do that setup though. You might need to consider how you could prevent this pump running dry in the event pond level dropped unexpectedly for some reason, or the skimmer itself blocked if it's got a basket or mat in it.2016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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03-12-2018, 03:44 PM #451
yea if main pumps fail the skimmer pump will just push the water around so overflow isn’t an issue. I could maybe fit a float cutoff switch for the pump inside the skimmer? I do have a basket in the skimmer but would take it out if it’s fed into the drum, I like the idea of only running the skimmer a couple of hours a day to clear the top and save on electricity. Only problem I can see is big leaves jamming the pump
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03-12-2018, 05:45 PM #452
Not sure if i have missed something Skoosh but cant you put the skimmer to 3 or 4ins straight to drum?
I did this on mine this year and not hard at all and save a pump.John
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03-12-2018, 05:55 PM #453
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03-12-2018, 06:04 PM #454
And the skimmer is 2”
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03-12-2018, 06:06 PM #455
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03-12-2018, 06:08 PM #456
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03-12-2018, 06:34 PM #4572016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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03-12-2018, 06:39 PM #458
LOL Like your thinking there but I am fairly certain I've got the correct size hole saw but I could always try a 10mm smaller one and have a few attempts and end up with a hole the same shape as the Lotus car badge after some filing lol
Just checked and I mean the centre bit of the Lotus badge lol
Could even do a four leaf clover shape too - could be lucky for you, you never knowLast edited by Frimley Koi keeper; 03-12-2018 at 06:44 PM.
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03-12-2018, 06:50 PM #459
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03-12-2018, 07:01 PM #460
Trying to avoid drilling the drum but it may be unavoidable. Would 2” into the drum draw enough though?
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pug has a very impressive veg filter on his pond, have a look at some of his his youtube videos....