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  1. #101
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    Hi forest Way, have a look on the ''for sale section'' Waterdog is selling some koi,
    he's at Newhaven, East Sussex. Maybe to far, but you never know .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Way View Post
    Hi all, long time no post

    So nearly 5 months after breaking ground we have a few new tiddlers in the pond , what one of our local dealers calls suicide fish, but apart from a goldie getting sucked down the skimmer into the drum filter ( safely recovered) - so far so good.

    We fitted and flushed through the shower yesterday, and the flow through that is great, with that, the tangential pond returns and 3 aerated bottom drain itís all a bit much for the little fish which are just chilling by the windows which is perfect.

    We bought a beige tower filter, to match the grey concrete garage, but then recently decided to clad it so the tower looks a bit odd so I am going to build some matching cladding around it.

    The secondary pond will be for planting and Quarantine when valved off- or at least thatís the plan.

    We are going to try and wait a few weeks before adding more (expensive) fish inc a couple of Sturgeon, but if anyone knows of a pond closure or similar near the south coast, that would be a great way to get started, as Iím not looking for show winners, but we certainly have room for a few more.








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    Looks amazing, is that rainbow Indian sandstone paving?


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    Ponds looks really good. Well done


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    It's a lovely pond Forest, you must be pleased as punch

    Your fish look so tiny in there!

    I have a few fish I am needing to move on in the next 12 months or so, they are not very high quality though and I'm a bit of a drive from the south coast. But would not be looking to charge for them, if you were wanting some reasonably big free koi to start with.
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    Lovely pond, Iíll send everyone round to your gaff whoís been to mine and said ďwhy didnít you make that a swimming pool, itís massive!!Ē
    Iíve tried explaining that mine is quite modest and that really I wanted it twice the size and they look at me as though Iím mad.



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    Looks the buisness mate. Really nice. I am over the moon for you mate.
    A lot would have given the rebuild a swerve. And give up.
    Respect to you.
    So now enjoy it.
    Keep an eye on the parameters.
    All the best in fish keeping
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  12. #107
    Cheers All,
    Yes Skoosh its Rainbow sandstone, and looks even better when its wet.
    Cladding around the shower, some downlights on the back wall cladding, and some planting in the veg pond and we will be done...ish
    On the subject of plating though I guess most water plants die off to some extent in the winter ? so is it worth planting this up now and if so does anyone have any recommendations ?

    Feline many thanks for the offer, I am sure I will be posting regularly and we can stay updated, but if my regular impulsive nature wins through my next post is likely to be about issues with overstocking ;@)...resist..resist.

    We will take our first set of reading tonight , I guess test regularity depends on feeding and stocking rates, for now would once a week be OK ?
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  14. #108
    Hi All,
    Well we have been water testing regularly, and no dramas so far but the alge growing on the bottom and sides is getting quite long now and although we quite like the way it sways in the current I fear it could 6” long by the end of the spring.
    Is this anything at all to be concerned about ?
    I have seen water change qty expressed as a % of volume per day /week but I assume that rule of thumb changes significantly with pond volume and stocking levels, we have a large pond (closer to 50000lts inc filters) and very low stocking levels at the moment, is there a relatively simple way to calculate the amount of water we should be changing, we have an auto top up with an in-line water meter so can see how much is going in and therefore going out.
    So far we have been letting the drum filter do it’s own thing, but maybe we should raise the foat switch to get a more regular clean cycle and flush out more pond water per day, lower the nitrate and slow the grass growing..maybe...... welcome your opinions
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    I think that blanket weed looks very happy! It could really kick of when the warmer weather arrives - never mind 6" you could have several feet! I would treat it sooner rather than later - it blocks filters up something horrible if you let it get out of hand. What is your nitrate level? - is that an anoxic pond the shower discharges into? The theory is that anoxic ponds should reduce the need for water changes but the rule of thumb is minimum 10% /week. Some tap water supplies have high nitrate so water changes don't always help controlling blanket weed. I use 50% dose of CBA and I usually only have to dose once but it does need temp above 10 deg not sure if any of the others work at lower temps.
    6000g in ground koi pond
    +3000g lily/Anoxic pond attached
    29 koi (40 to 65cm)
    Bottom drain, Mid water & Skimmer to Drum
    JBR boichamber->Blue eco 500 pump ->below surface return.
    Blue Eco 240 -> Large MB -> Waterfall -> Planted Anoxic pond (25 baskets)

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    Pond looks great - get some Aqua Source - Resolve, Blanket Weed Treatment in there, and monitor the drum closely for a period of time thereafter.

    Dead easy to use, just sprinkle around the edge - i've used it the past two years, and it works wonders.

    I don't even treat the entire volume of water, do a half dose and observe, if more is required - add it.

    Be ready in the spring with more, as you'll need it !
    Its a hole in the ground where I throw my money!

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    Pond looks awesome. You've done a brilliant job with that!!

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    Cracking build well done ,

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    Just had a bit of a catch of after a leave of absence, fantastic build Forest, I bet you are really pleased with it, the Sandstone and cladding really sets it off
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
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    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

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    Hi all,
    Just a quick update, I did treat the pond with a 4kg tub of cloverleaf blanket weed answer, and I can certainly tell its working by the amount of time I have had to go an unblock the P trap into which my drum filter waste goes.
    I has to raise the float level in the drum filter considerably so it flushed more often with less veg matter, but it is now maintaining itself OK.
    The water is still quite green with suspended blanket weed so I guess the treatment is still doing it job, but with the amount I am flushing away through the drum and the auto top up it will be significantly diluted by now, we will keep an eye on it and maybe do another dose in a month or so, I'm not looking (or expecting) to get back to bare gel coat but just want to keep it under control.
    We have bought a load more pond plants so hopefully they will out compete for nutrients once established.
    We picked a few more mid sized fish at New Forest Koi last weekend, and I need to much less impulsive, although happy with what we got
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    I have a Blummin nightmare with Blanket weed too, I suspect it's the phosphates in our water supply, as I just can't shift it! I'm only a stones throw from you.

    If your water is green, then that would indicate free floating algae, which is a different issue to blanket weed, and that's where a UV comes in.

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    The Water is green(ish) but that only happened since we started treating for Blanket weed so I think/hope its just the blanket weed breaking down saturating the water, the drum filter is on over time as was cycling every 10mins.
    Having said that the temp has gone up quite a bit over the last few weeks and we have started feeding again..so maybe it is an algae bloom.
    We have an 80W Amalgam UV but it is a big body of water, may we need to fit another ?

    I'm in all day tomorrow if you fancy popping over for a brew (or a beer), and having as look.

    Cheers
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    I had quite a bit of algae earlier in the year but it seems to have calmed down now, the water is nice and clear, but I keep getting long string alga from the bottom of the pond about 1 meter in length, just random strings of it, I started feeding a few weeks ago
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2.1 Meter x 0.71 Infinity Window
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

    http://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construction-pond-build-diaries/21720-roy-lynns-shiny-pond-day.html

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    I just remembered this morning, that whilst flushing through the worst if the broken up blanket weed (post treatment) I ramped all the pumps up to max (1x30000, 2x20000l/Hr) to filter the bits out as quickly as possible, this in turn is obviously decreasing the retention time the Drum filter as all inlets and outlets go through it, and my UV is in the clean side of the drum.
    So I have just been out and adjusted the flow rates again back to normal, Shower at 80%, Pond return 50%, Veg filter 30%
    Hopefully this will see things back to normal and me not rushing out to get another 80W UV....out Elec bill is massive enough.
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