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Thread: 36000tr/8000Gal new Pond
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09-05-2018, 06:45 PM #21
A good but long day yesterday due to a late delivery, but the slab went in trouble free apart from a few minor landslides, and was floated off late last night.
We used nearly all of the 60M pump trucks pipe to get the 7M3 up the drive and around the side of the house.
Happy days
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09-05-2018, 06:55 PM #22
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09-05-2018, 07:05 PM #23
Just noticed that the pics of the Pond windows didn't upload, also blocks on the slab ready to rock.
I need to get the Skimmer ordered up so if anyone has any recommendations they will be much appreciated, I was planning on a gravity line to the Burtons TF700 Drum Filter.
Cheers All
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09-05-2018, 07:26 PM #24
I've used a JBR Plastics skimmer with 4" outlet, removable basket and built in overflow. Made to fit a block sized opening. Not the cheapest option but not a chopped up swimming pool skimmer. Plenty of people on here are using them successfully so you can be confident it'll work. Plus, Jason is an all round top man.
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10-05-2018, 10:24 PM #25
Cheers I have tapped up JBR,reasonable prices especially on a 4 tier 1000mm ‘bakki’ shower
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12-05-2018, 09:10 AM #26
..ordered skimmer, 2x TPR,s and the Shower from JBR, thanks for the steer on that, as it’s good value
Jason at JBR advised each tier of the 4 tiers of the shower take approx 10kg, so if I was to use BHM that’s another £600...which although I’ve almost stopped counting how much this is all costing, it sounds excessive for some fancy rocks (I know there’s more to it that that).
Any recommendations on the next best alternative to BHM ?
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12-05-2018, 10:25 AM #27
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12-05-2018, 06:42 PM #28
I'm totally happy with Crystal Bio. It matured quickly, and my nitrates are practically nil.
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12-05-2018, 10:27 PM #29
Where can I get crystal bio them in a reasonable qty ...sounds like he 90’s ;@)
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12-05-2018, 11:45 PM #30
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13-05-2018, 07:57 PM #31
You can get it from Absolute Koi. Or have a look at Queni Koi. They have a very similar product to BHM but a hell of a lot cheaper.
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13-05-2018, 10:13 PM #32
https://kitsukoi.co.uk/collections/f...-infrared-10kg how about this,andi
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14-05-2018, 04:05 PM #33
Crystal Bio will break down and erode in high flow showers.
Sakura Ceramic Shower Media as Andi says
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17-05-2018, 10:34 PM #34
Hi,
we are out of the ground (just) and have placed the pond window frames, just to get an idea for the best placement.
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I have bought a 30000L variable speed pump, but now im thinking it might be best to have 2 or even 3 smaller pumps, for mid water, veg filter and (bakki) shower returns so that I can have the shower on timer that goes off at night, and the reduced flow would stop the drum filter from flushing so often at night (pond is right outside the bedroom window)....what say you ?any negatives to that approach?
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18-05-2018, 08:48 AM #35
Not sure it’s a good idea to be turning your shower off every night, kinda defeats the object of having one?
One pump on a pond that size would worry me as well, how do you circulate all that water?
Isn’t Felines pond a similar size? I’d be emulating something like that or at least reading the build thread for inspiration. Apologies if you already have but even second time around it’s an impressive read
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18-05-2018, 09:53 PM #36
Thanks, the main pump is 30,000 L/hr, so let’s assume you in the real world it only moves 20k/hr, the pond is 36000ltrs so it should turn it over at least every 2 hours in the very worst case, or have I got that wrong..possibly
What I would like is to have the facility to slow it down at night, so that the drum filter doesn’t flush so often.
I take the comment on board about keeping the shower going, so maybe it’s best to have a couple of pumps in paralllel and have one of them on a timer.
what say you ?
I read Felines build diary very impressive indeed, lots to learn from you all here.
cheers
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18-05-2018, 11:29 PM #37
I think if it were my pond I’d put in 2 returns at opposing diagonals to aid circulation and keep the crud moving. I’d also have my filtration running 24/7, fish still poo at night I suspect If you’re concerned about noise then maybe put some soundproofing quilt around everything?
Personally I think running everything in an up and down fashion is asking for trouble. All the water chemistry may be fluctuating all over the place whereas stability is the key surely? I also like the facility to “turn it up” rather than operate at the limit of my equipment. It’s easier to put it in at the start imo.
You could return your shower underwater. Most showers can be specified with a 4” outlet option. That’s what I’m installing now as my gear is in my garage about 4m from the pond.
She who must be obeyed didn’t want one on the side of the pond (plus it keeps it from getting too cold in the winter)
Only my thoughts..I’m sure someone else will have an alternative suggestion.
Will be good to see what you decide and how things work out. There’s always 20 ways to do things and no set rules. It’s part of the fun trying to work it all out in the most efficient way. Well, it is for me anyway Talk to 20 people and you’ll invariably get 20 different answers.
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21-05-2018, 09:51 PM #38
Hi all,
As we are out of the ground and the next (last) load of bocks arrives tomorrow, I am giving some though to the internal finish.
I has always intended to Fibre glass but hadn't considered lining with foam, which I have now read can be done instead of rendering but with the insulation benefits....I was not planning to heat- but who knows where this is all going in the future.
Any thoughts at all I have used resins but not done any fibre glassing personally, luckily enough though my builder has some experience, is it within the realms of a careful DIY'er, or should I get it done professionally... just has £7K quote, not inc the cost to tent it in.
What say you wise ones
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23-05-2018, 11:30 PM #39
https://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co....am-sheets-12mm
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26-05-2018, 07:21 AM #40
Hi,
Just in case it’s of interest to anyone else, it looks like I will be using 12mm Celotex to line the pond pre fibre glassing, and I guess this save on the cost of rendering, but even at the best price I can find on it still coming in at a smidge over £600.
What I keep forgetting in my calculations general musings is that alongside the pond is going to be the veg filter ( or anoxic, subject to much more reading, and no doubt posting) the is the same length of the pond so it 6x1x0.5M deep and is going to be quite a structure in its own right, and given that it contains the ponds water obviously I don’t want that leaking, so should be given the same amount of consideration wrt construction as the main pond, so that’s going to be foam lined and fibre glassed also.
I've started to make enquiries about fibre glassing, but if anyone can make a recommendation it would be much appreciated.
progrees this week:
innner and outer walls up to ground level.
back filled and whacked all around the edges
Cabling for the outer ‘brick’ lights and the inner pond lights is in
Stainless steel window frames have been repaired, as they were slightly out of line.
No pond work this weekend as I am knocking down walls in the house, and adding to the massive wate pile in front of the house, (already had 5 grab trucks)
Hope you are enjoying your ponds and one day hope to be joining you in that ;@)
Cheers,
Steve H
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