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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    ,just need a good driver,i told you that lol,looking at the gap i can see on side of wagon and wall i could of got my wagon and the trailer down it lol,some guys today just wont try,glad its all done mate,must be weight off your mind and glad you got refunded,the only way is up now,for the blocks at least haha,andi
    Up the lane was very very tight.
    Driver was roped in at last minute. He told me he usually drives the large HGV but was roped in as there short on drivers today.

    Glad it’s down. Bricky can’t make it for two weeks so it looks like I will do it myself.

    How long should I leave before I start. I can’t leave spray on it today as we’re off out.

    Be back around 5 ish so will give it a good soak then.


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    You a driver Andi?

    I was a driver for 43 yrs been in quite a few tight spots in my time but leave it to you young ones now with all the cpc thing etc.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorchio View Post
    Up the lane was very very tight.
    Driver was roped in at last minute. He told me he usually drives the large HGV but was roped in as there short on drivers today.

    Glad it’s down. Bricky can’t make it for two weeks so it looks like I will do it myself.

    How long should I leave before I start. I can’t leave spray on it today as we’re off out.

    Be back around 5 ish so will give it a good soak then.


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    It should have gone off enough to walk on and start laying some blocks by tomorrow. Happy days.

    The first course tends to take ages since you need a lot more mortar to get it all dead level than in subsequent courses. Good luck with the block laying- doing mine nearly finished off my back though LOL.

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    Yeah what feline said - tomorrow you should be ok, and corners corners corners first for levels.

    Dont worry about the spray

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    Looking good

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    Some cracking in the concrete when we got back.
    Ive sprayed it with water to keep it damp.
    It doesn't look very level. Water pooling on one side and it looks lower in the corner than the bottom drain.
    What mortor mix. 3-1, 4-1, or 5-1
    I plan to start at the high point and work from there.

    what height should I plan the returns from the bottom of the pond?
    The pond is going to be insulated with 2 inch on the base I think.

    Thanks

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    Hi 3-1 mix below ground 4-1 above but i would just do it all 3-1!! My returns are 10inch down from top pond looks in a fab spot!!

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    Nice one on the base. My returns are at about 12 inch. 10 inch sounds good. You don t want to low or to high. On your returns. Enough to move the bottom circulation.

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    Excuse my ignorance.

    Does return depth really matter?

    I ask because in a gravity fed situation using airlifts for the return, those return pipes would typically be at surface level. Likewise if thr return was through something like a shower the return would be above surface level...

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    Im glad I did my returns at that as the water cuming back into the pond would disturb the surface!! 2 close 2 the bottom and in winter there would b no Warmer part of the pond unless your heating!!

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    Thanks ScottsKoi, I understand. Isn't water surface disturbance generally a good thing for aeration and stimulating the fish?

    Or is it all a matter of personal preference?

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    You need to move crud on the bottom and move the water around. And also to allow fish to have a resting place. Each setup is different.
    So a differant way. For my pond. There exactly right at that hight. Also my pond is round.

    Some people have. Mid returns. That suit there ponds. Not bottom returns. Because it suits there ponds.

    Mine was planned with two things in mind. Bottom drain and enough movement for skimmer. Where my spindrifter ties in with this. For surface clean
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandlin View Post
    Thanks ScottsKoi, I understand. Isn't water surface disturbance generally a good thing for aeration and stimulating the fish?

    Or is it all a matter of personal preference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandlin View Post
    Thanks ScottsKoi, I understand. Isn't water surface disturbance generally a good thing for aeration and stimulating the fish?

    Or is it all a matter of personal preference?
    Ive put a spindrifter bottom drain in so that should help I'm new 2 this but what ive pic up on and how my pond was with the returns

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    The spindrifter moves around mate. Does not stay in one place. Good bit of kit if you stick the dome on good
    On the shaft.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scotts koi View Post
    Ive put a spindrifter bottom drain in so that should help I'm new 2 this but what ive pic up on and how my pond was with the returns
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    It's going to be a while until I get 10 inch from the top at the speed I'm laying these blocks.
    It took me about 9 hours to work out best layout for blocks and lay about 12.
    Concrete not very level so there's lots of mortar for the first course. I hope the next 16 are much easier

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    first course is always a nightmare unless you get a perfect base,the rest will fly up,one of reasons mine will be first course as foundations are still wet and why im dry stacking hollows with rebar in,stack and fill lol,keep the photos coming lol,andi

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    Nice one mate. You will see a differance soon. Keep the photos coming on progress.

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    Some of the blocks going in





    Might be able to do a bit more in the week after work if I get the time

    Thanks


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    You were fooling us with your nice neat hole and clean site before weren't you!

    Now it looks like a proper building site with scattered trip hazards, discarded tools, a toppled mixer stand, and the ubiquitous 1 ton bags!


    Jobs a good 'un!


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    Oh yes. Full risk assessment carried out and completely ignored.

    To much health and safety going on now.
    If your repairing a urinal which has a 6 inch step your classed as working at height.
    You could fall and suffer personal injury.

    If if you fall off a urinal and you've not had a few then you deserve a personal injury

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