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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve1984 View Post
    Thanks would I need outdoor sockets if they are being placed in an enclosed filter house

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    As an electrician personally I would err on the side of caution and go for waterproof sockets where ever there is any possibility of water being sprayed on them if say a hose comes off or springs a leak. But if you apply the same rules that you do in a bath room or shower room then as long as they are more than 3m from any source of water then a standard socket is OK - personally I think that's wrong as you could still have wet hands when you go to touch the socket and then the 3m rule is worthless basically.

    Basically RCD protect anything that is related to water and use waterproof sockets where any water is present or spraying of water is possible.

    And just remember waterproof sockets are only waterproof if the lids are shut and the catches are attached properly.

    Just remember water and electricity don't mix so you need all the help you can get if you are using them both together.

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    As for inlet and outlet on your pump Steve, usually the picture on the outside of the box shows the pump with a pump cage fitted (well this applies to all the pumps I've bought recently) The cage is fitted to the inlet. There is quite often an arrow showing flow direction on the side of the pump case somewhere obvious. So looking at your photo I would say it's mounted the correct way so it will pump up to the barrel filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    As an electrician personally I would err on the side of caution and go for waterproof sockets where ever there is any possibility of water being sprayed on them if say a hose comes off or springs a leak. But if you apply the same rules that you do in a bath room or shower room then as long as they are more than 3m from any source of water then a standard socket is OK - personally I think that's wrong as you could still have wet hands when you go to touch the socket and then the 3m rule is worthless basically.

    Basically RCD protect anything that is related to water and use waterproof sockets where any water is present or spraying of water is possible.

    And just remember waterproof sockets are only waterproof if the lids are shut and the catches are attached properly.

    Just remember water and electricity don't mix so you need all the help you can get if you are using them both together.
    Nice one Frim,not a dig at Fred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Nice one Frim,not a dig at Fred.
    No John not intentionally this time just trying to make sure things are understood.

    Sorry Fred I wasn't having a go at you on this reply OK.

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    I know Frim,you have got to think safety in elecs,so good post.
    John

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    Nice one John, just shame I don't apply the same rules to my shed LOL well it's a work in progress but that's no excuse is it really I just make sure I have my wellies and marigolds on when ever I do anything in the filter shed

    Unfortunately I can't tell people to do it the way I do it I have to tell them the correct way to do it or I could be in trouble should something go wrong

    Where there's a blame - there's a claim

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    Hey Frim I know exactly what you are saying as you dont want any come backs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Hey Frim I know exactly what you are saying as you dont want any come backs.
    I wouldn't expect any but you never know these days do you?

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    I'll get waterproof sockets then especially as the kids will be in and out might take a different view if it was just me going in there. My sparky is going to run the cable from my consumer unit as a separate fuse and then fit an additional unit in the filter house to run all of the electrics from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Nice one Frim,not a dig at Fred.
    Haha nice one john.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    No John not intentionally this time just trying to make sure things are understood.

    Sorry Fred I wasn't having a go at you on this reply OK.
    I know mate. You want to make a thread on the shutting of lids on sockets.
    Because i would love to know. How many people actually do this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve1984 View Post
    I'll get waterproof sockets then especially as the kids will be in and out might take a different view if it was just me going in there. My sparky is going to run the cable from my consumer unit as a separate fuse and then fit an additional unit in the filter house to run all of the electrics from.

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    Sounds like a plan Steve. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    I know mate. You want to make a thread on the shutting of lids on sockets.
    Because i would love to know. How many people actually do this.


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    I would ask the question but it may start an online war lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    As an electrician personally I would err on the side of caution and go for waterproof sockets where ever there is any possibility of water being sprayed on them if say a hose comes off or springs a leak. But if you apply the same rules that you do in a bath room or shower room then as long as they are more than 3m from any source of water then a standard socket is OK - personally I think that's wrong as you could still have wet hands when you go to touch the socket and then the 3m rule is worthless basically.

    Basically RCD protect anything that is related to water and use waterproof sockets where any water is present or spraying of water is possible.

    And just remember waterproof sockets are only waterproof if the lids are shut and the catches are attached properly.

    Just remember water and electricity don't mix so you need all the help you can get if you are using them both together.
    And lets not go into the even greater danger of exporting PME outside your house, especially where pipework and water are concerned!!

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    Frim,
    On electrician forums the standard answer is.....

    If you have to ask the question you shouldn't be doing the work yourself. Save your family from certain death and get a qualified sparks in to do it.

    If you took that line you could make a fortune on here. But it would leave little time to finish your QT build.. Steves 1st pond build

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Frim,
    On electrician forums the standard answer is.....

    If you have to ask the question you shouldn't be doing the work yourself. Save your family from certain death and get a qualified sparks in to do it.

    If you took that line you could make a fortune on here. But it would leave little time to finish your QT build.. Steves 1st pond build

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    Haha brill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk101 View Post
    And lets not go into the even greater danger of exporting PME outside your house, especially where pipework and water are concerned!!
    I know I didn't want to really scare him LOL

    He's got an electrician doing the work so he should be OK now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Frim,
    On electrician forums the standard answer is.....

    If you have to ask the question you shouldn't be doing the work yourself. Save your family from certain death and get a qualified sparks in to do it.

    If you took that line you could make a fortune on here. But it would leave little time to finish your QT build.. Steves 1st pond build

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    From what I've read on here he's got an electrician doing the work now. Not sure if it's all the work or just the supply from the house to the shed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Frim,
    On electrician forums the standard answer is.....

    If you have to ask the question you shouldn't be doing the work yourself. Save your family from certain death and get a qualified sparks in to do it.

    If you took that line you could make a fortune on here. But it would leave little time to finish your QT build.. Steves 1st pond build

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    As the regs changed a couple of months ago you now are supposed to fit a SPD a surge protection device. The only problem is no body really seems to understand how they work and if you read the regs it's still a grey area as to if you actually have to fit them on a domestic property. It's all to do with risk assessments and the value of the items it's protecting etc. plus not all the manufactures are making them for their fuse boards yet so it's difficult to comply with that reg at the moment unless things have moved on in the last few weeks?

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    I'm not doing any of the electrical work other than wiring the plugs on to the bits. I have a mate who's a sparky and will be doing it for me. Had enough when I had to put the sockets indoors for the 2 tanks I've got and even then my mate came and helped

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