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    I've picked up the coping stones just need to get a few bags of building sand so that I can lay them, hoping for some nice weather one evening. I also picked up some bits to start the plumbing but am confused as to how to set it all up and help and ideas welcome. I was also told I need to add a t piece to each of my bottom drains to enable me to purge them, I didn't know about this and don't know now if I have the room or ability to add this so ideas are welcome on how I can do this also

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    Yes you will need a tee in each line to purge the bottom drains, if you are going with the nexus, sorry I've probably missed a few posts, but you need to dump a lot of water very quickly, to do this you open up a valve to a drain, if you have a drum you can close off the BD valves and dump into the drum, I tend to do this every two weeks, so with a drum you don't need the Tee and you can just dump into an empty drum, in a nexus you need to dump the water to drain.

    If you put some pictures up of your filter room with bits in place I am sure you will get some good pointer on here how to connect everything up, take it in sections, Returns, UV, Bottom Drains, Sieve, Nexus etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Yes you will need a tee in each line to purge the bottom drains, if you are going with the nexus, sorry I've probably missed a few posts, but you need to dump a lot of water very quickly, to do this you open up a valve to a drain, if you have a drum you can close off the BD valves and dump into the drum, I tend to do this every two weeks, so with a drum you don't need the Tee and you can just dump into an empty drum, in a nexus you need to dump the water to drain.

    If you put some pictures up of your filter room with bits in place I am sure you will get some good pointer on here how to connect everything up, take it in sections, Returns, UV, Bottom Drains, Sieve, Nexus etc
    Thanks I'm not using a nexus but sieve and bead but guess the principle is the same. I've not set anything out yet as not quite sure where to start will have a bit of a play around in the evenings if it's light when I get home and post some pictures. It all sounds simple enough to put together it's just the height of the sieve I need to work out and then go from there

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    I've been down in the shed today trying to work out what to place where in the plumbing. I can't figure out how I'm going to fit it all in. Is there anyone in essex close to thurrock that could pop over and give me some advise at all

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    So far this month I've spent close to £350 on fittings and I still.need more never knew this stage was going to be so expensive

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    Soon adds up steve. Unfortunately im up in hull/east riding otherwise i would have gladly popped round.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lee63 View Post
    Soon adds up steve. Unfortunately im up in hull/east riding otherwise i would have gladly popped round.


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    Certainly does, I think I've figured out how to do it just going to have to bite the bullet and hope it's correct only think I'm not sure on is how the bead goes together at the moment so may have to take some pictures and post on here to get some help

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    Skimmer line is almost plumbed in annoyingly I was slightly short on pipe work to complete it today and my koi shop isn't open on a Sunday will get another length next weekend and try to have a look at the main line

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    Hi Steve,

    Just further to the previous discussion about limestone impregnators and protectors.

    I recommended Lithofin MN Stain Stop Plus, and you used Miracle 511 enhance & Seal.

    Just got it on good authority that both those are pretty much the best products out there, so your mate was right to recommend.

    Both products bloody expensive though, the Miracle 511 more so than the Lithofin.

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    Hi Steve,
    What size pipe is it ?
    Looks like 2ins solvent weld,I have some spare if you need it.
    If so what is the exact measurement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Hi Steve,
    What size pipe is it ?
    Looks like 2ins solvent weld,I have some spare if you need it.
    If so what is the exact measurement?
    Thanks John, its 2 inch pressure pipe I'm using but I need to get a couple of lengths anyway to plum the other line on from sieve to bead then to the UV and then to the return again appreciate the offer though

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    No problem,I have some of needed.
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    sorry another couple of questions, the first which I should have checked before plumbing, have I plumbed in my pump the correct way around I followed the pump on my marine system for in and out. Secondly I've been looking at switch boxes and spoke to my local koi shop, they suggested staying away from an electrical switch boxes as they can fail but not sure if they just wanted to sell me their switch box instead, what are your experiences and opinions on the switch boxes or should I just get my sparky to install plug sockets and put plugs on the equipment

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    The pipe pointing up is the pump outlet.

    As for switch boxes, personally I'd never spend money on one. They are expensive, they fail, can break plastic parts by over tightening screws etc. I can't imagine a scenario for me personally where a switch box would be any more useful than attaching plugs and using a standard (or waterproof if required) switched socket outlet.

    But plug sockets don't look as professional as a pretty switch box with lots of buttons to press.

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    depend what the pump is.. most dry pumps come out the top. I have had a pump that did both. dry (out the water ) and in pond (in water) and there hose connections are the same horizontal .
    I have a switch box, and sockets. reason I bought the switch box was because I worked away before retiring on the oil rigs for a 3 on 3 off rota. and my wife runs a business and did nt have time for my pond. only to feed the fish.
    so I wanted it to run on its own means, hence the Matsuko Pond Equipment Switch Box Timer + Pump Guard.
    meaning it saved me 2 water pumps and an air pump.because it controls the pumps. Saved me some money . its been running for 3 years now. and has turned the pumps off 3 times in this time.
    if I was to redo a new build with being around all the time apart from holidays. I would go along with what RS said, and fit only sockets. But like I say I worked away a lot. and the switch box served its purpose. still running strong after nearly 3 years.

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    Thanks, pump should be ok then and I think I'll just install normal plug sockets rather than a switch box does the same thing and I can use that extra cash towards some more fittings Steves 1st pond build

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    I would definitely go with double outdoor sockets, they are only about £10 from screwfix

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    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
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    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    I would definitely go with double outdoor sockets, they are only about £10 from screwfix

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    Make sure you go for BG and not LAP if you buy from Screwfix and you will probably find you can get a twin BG waterproof for just under £11 at the moment - AVOID LAP AT ALL COSTS !!!!

    BG Storm are the ones to go for but they may also be branded as Luceco? which is BG's lighting brand.

    Also I think from memory the BG terminals are colour coded so you don't have to struggle to see the L, N and E markings.

    Good luck.

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    Thanks would I need outdoor sockets if they are being placed in an enclosed filter house

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve1984 View Post
    sorry another couple of questions, the first which I should have checked before plumbing, have I plumbed in my pump the correct way around I followed the pump on my marine system for in and out. Secondly I've been looking at switch boxes and spoke to my local koi shop, they suggested staying away from an electrical switch boxes as they can fail but not sure if they just wanted to sell me their switch box instead, what are your experiences and opinions on the switch boxes or should I just get my sparky to install plug sockets and put plugs on the equipment
    I agree with you on the switch box front Steve.

    Personally I would go for waterproof switches and single sockets out of choice but if you have to fit doubles then you may have to to suit your requirements. Obviously multiple switches and sockets don't look as nice but they can be easier to work on and cheaper to replace should they ever go wrong. Just need to get yourself a decent marker pen or stickers to label them up so you know what's what in case you need to turn something off in a hurry or someone else has to that you have looking after your pond if you are away. To help tidy things up a bit you can can get both 1 and 2 gang switches that fit the same box for maybe a pump and a UVC or what you need to have switched together but not always at the same time if that makes sense?

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