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    Quote Originally Posted by Skoosh88 View Post
    You could do the same as mentioned above but in your skimmer depending on what one you have. It would be very unlikely that you will ever sell on your skimmer but you might want to change your filtration at some point, I try to leave filtration units untouched so that the are easily sellable if I want to change / upgrade, I bought a second hand seive that had been moded and although after buying a few blanks and sealing it up it worked fine just looks terrible...


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    Ah, skimmer! Now thereís a good ideal. My skimmer ainít going anywhere as itís concreted in and has a large slab on it! I think Iíll go with this as itís neat and tidy, which is what I want, and keeps the Nexus crisp.

    Also gets round the problem mentioned above about the water level in the Nexus outlet area being lower than the pond level. Perfect.

    Nice one Skoosh. Gray's Pond Build Diary
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    The water was running great and looking gin clear until the other day...

    Itís now started to go green.

    Iím surprised as itís been beautifully clear for months. It was a bit green when I started it all up and I expected that but itís now gone green again Gray's Pond Build Diary

    Checked my parameters and all looks good aside from the Phosphate which has gone from 0/0.1 to 5.

    With the odd weather Iím thinking maybe itís due to my sporadic feeding?

    Iíve changed 15% of the water and now started to feed more consistently.

    Just FYI - I have some mid-size goldfish in the pond to get the filters running. They ainít big at all. No Koi yet.

    Iím thinking that maybe some plants in rock baskets might help? Saw Fredís post about this hence my thinking.

    I donít want a shower or similar but I could hook some nice looking plant baskets in the pond if this would help.

    Thoughts?
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    hi gray. i have stopped my upper pond return to the lower pond. for the winter. and installed a bypass to the lower pond.
    to stop the wind chill and waterfall shute chill. with covering the pond. and my nitrates altered as well. plants do keep the nitrates down.
    but it could also keep the green going. my uv s do a job on that though.
    so could it be your uv bulbs need changing mate.
    on the postive side your pond sounds as though it is maturing.
    keep an eye on the weed growth though. if it gets to long. put some aqua resolve in there. unless you want to keep the algae.
    all the best for the new year mate.

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    Cheers Fred. I did wonder about the UV but itís only been running for 5-6mths and is a twin bulb EA 110w so Iíd like to think the bulbs (or at least one!) are still ok.

    I have noticed a couple of bits of string algae have appeared, nothing major, which is what lead me to think maybe the Phosphate level is a bit high.

    What would be the best plants to pop in some baskets to help? Iím not that green fingered so plant advice is very welcome!!!

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    Cheers Fred. I did wonder about the UV but it’s only been running for 5-6mths and is a twin bulb EA 110w so I’d like to think the bulbs (or at least one!) are still ok.

    I have noticed a couple of bits of string algae have appeared, nothing major, which is what lead me to think maybe the Nitrate level is a bit high.

    Not too sure where ‘normal’ should be for Nitrate. Ideal is obviously zero but guessing that’s probably not totally achievable on my current set-up?

    What would be the best plants to pop in some baskets to help? I’m not that green fingered so plant advice is very welcome!!!

    Thanks.
    I have iris rushes. dutch rushes. they look like green bamboo. also water lillys. and they seem to work for me in the upper pond. I have always had nitrate readings. but only low.
    I will put a photo on to give you idea on plants

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    The thick leaves are iris rushes.and have yellow flower. In the summer.
    The thin green ones are dutch rushes.
    My water Lilly have died off for winter. But come back in spring
    I change my uv bulbs on 6 months
    If you have string algi already uv will not kill it. Get some resolve that should kill it.
    Hope this helps

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    Cheers for the advice and pics as always Fred. Really appreciated.

    Iíll look up some of those plants and they do look good.

    Iíll also look up the Resolve as well.

    Iíll get some new bulbs for the UV, swap them out and see if this makes a difference. Iíll keep the current ones just in case they are still ok.

    Cheers.

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    Cheers for the advice and pics as always Fred. Really appreciated.

    Iíll look up some of those plants and they do look good.

    Iíll also look up the Resolve as well.

    Iíll get some new bulbs for the UV, swap them out and see if this makes a difference. Iíll keep the current ones just in case they are still ok.

    Cheers.
    When i used the resolve in spring time. My algi is only fuzzy. I do a half dose. Then 6 months later another half dose. And thats how i keep on top of it. So upto now i hope it will be once a year. But it never got to the stage of long and stringy. So you might have to do a full dose over a week say. I would do a half dose. See if that kills it. If not then another half dose.
    I bought them iris 2 years ago and a new lot this year. They grow quickly.
    Mine are not in soil. They are in baskets of half inch to a 1 inch size pebbles. And the neutrants from the food and fish feed them. Works great.
    If you use a soil you need Hessian cloth. To stop the soil and hold it.
    Plus it clouds your water. Just use pebbles. But wash the pebbles down first.
    Hope this helps
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    Here you gou go mate
    https://www.pond-planet.co.uk/pond-c...QaAkVmEALw_wcB

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Here you gou go mate
    https://www.pond-planet.co.uk/pond-c...QaAkVmEALw_wcB

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    Spot on. Cheers! Gray's Pond Build Diary

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Do you do your washing in the pond Fred, you've left your laundry basket out lol
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    Pond is looking good Gray, I bet you are pleased with how it turned out
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    Do you do your washing in the pond Fred, you've left your laundry basket out lol
    Haha. Nice one mate. They do look like that . I have two one in each corner. There full of plants on the top. But there just summer plants.
    There dead now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Pond is looking good Gray, I bet you are pleased with how it turned out
    Cheers Roy, I am pleased for sure. Everythingís working as it should which I have to say was a bit down to some tedious planning but mainly sheer bloody luck in the most part!

    Iíve got a few bits I want to tinker with though - always the way I guess.

    Iíve got a new Jebao variable that I want to fit on my main line but simply havenít had the time. Iíve been ripping out my kitchen, putting steels in, knocking walls down, etc...

    I also have my two air pumps running on the same circuit on my Matsuko box that I want to separate. I turn the air off automatically for an hour each night to skim the pond and that switches the bio air off too. No real biggy but something I want to fix as I didnít consider this when I wired them both in. Iíve got an IP44 switch to turn off the bd air when I want, itís on the outside wall, so I can feed so itís fine for now.

    The Nexus and Cetus are sat on treated wood blocks at the mo. Sat them on those in case the water levels were wrong in the filters and I needed to adjust things. Turns out they were spot on (fluke!) so I left them for now. Ideally I want them on concrete blocks/bricks so they donít rot.

    My little goldies ainít so little anymore and theyíre helping the filters mature. Slow game but the waterís gone lovely and clear again after a serious green spell and the parameters are good so itís heading in the right direction Iíd assume.

    Just waiting now for the spring to kick in so I can think of moving the Koi in. Little while yet though but theyíll be in for the summer which is great.

    Iíve been keeping up with your build too. Looking really good now. All going ok your side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    Cheers Fred. I did wonder about the UV but itís only been running for 5-6mths and is a twin bulb EA 110w so Iíd like to think the bulbs (or at least one!) are still ok.

    I have noticed a couple of bits of string algae have appeared, nothing major, which is what lead me to think maybe the Nitrate level is a bit high.

    Not too sure where Ďnormalí should be for Nitrate. Ideal is obviously zero but guessing thatís probably not totally achievable on my current set-up?


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    My pond nitrate was up in the 80's through much of last summer. No string algae whatsoever.

    Had a 2 week green spell around 2 Months after building the pond, which I think is normal, but after that the 55w UV caught up and no problems since. Although I've just extended the pond so am half expecting another green spell in around April.

    I tend to get brown algae which is disgusting looking stuff and it takes over the green algae that grows on the sides. Also had it in all my goldfish tanks for as long as I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    Cheers Roy, I am pleased for sure. Everything’s working as it should which I have to say was a bit down to some tedious planning but mainly sheer bloody luck in the most part!

    I’ve got a few bits I want to tinker with though - always the way I guess.

    I’ve got a new Jebao variable that I want to fit on my main line but simply haven’t had the time. I’ve been ripping out my kitchen, putting steels in, knocking walls down, etc...

    I also have my two air pumps running on the same circuit on my Matsuko box that I want to separate. I turn the air off automatically for an hour each night to skim the pond and that switches the bio air off too. No real biggy but something I want to fix as I didn’t consider this when I wired them both in. I’ve got an IP44 switch to turn off the bd air when I want, it’s on the outside wall, so I can feed so it’s fine for now.

    The Nexus and Cetus are sat on treated wood blocks at the mo. Sat them on those in case the water levels were wrong in the filters and I needed to adjust things. Turns out they were spot on (fluke!) so I left them for now. Ideally I want them on concrete blocks/bricks so they don’t rot.

    My little goldies ain’t so little anymore and they’re helping the filters mature. Slow game but the water’s gone lovely and clear again after a serious green spell and the parameters are good so it’s heading in the right direction I’d assume.

    Just waiting now for the spring to kick in so I can think of moving the Koi in. Little while yet though but they’ll be in for the summer which is great.

    I’ve been keeping up with your build too. Looking really good now. All going ok your side?
    The pond came to a bit of a standstill whilst I was working in the house, I have steels to put in this year, although it will probably be next year now and a new first floor almost, then I ended up working in the USA for 6 weeks, whilst my wife decides on falling down the stairs and braking her wrist and back in the first week I was away, she is self employed so no money coming in, but that's life and it goes on regardless of what life puts in your path, I'm a firm believer in "what happens, happens" so just suck it up and get on with life.

    I'm starting to do a bit more on the pond now the weather is picking up, I have to finish building the filter room but cant decide how to do it that it doesn't look an eyesore

    The fish are all doing well now, I did find Costia and fluke but that got treated quickly, i keep a good selection of potions in the house now as you never know.

    I'm really happy with the way its turned out and i'm hoping to get a pergola over it before summer, I certainly won't be getting any more fish until I can be certain the heron cant get them, the steel pegs are in, just need the posts and cross members, I do have a lot of stainless steel tube and brackets but I think that would look a bit odd, so its going to be wood I think.

    I need to look some good variable pumps to to replace my brand new fixed flow 18,000 l/h pumps, cocked up that purchase last year lol

    And, same as you I have all my air on one circuit, two aerated bottom drains and teh bio, I intend to split them so I can do a summer winter setup and only run 1 x 130l/h pump un summer and 1 x 70l/h pump in winter, and be able to turn the BD's off for feeding
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    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2.1 Meter x 0.71 Infinity Window
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

    http://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construction-pond-build-diaries/21720-roy-lynns-shiny-pond-day.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    The pond came to a bit of a standstill whilst I was working in the house, I have steels to put in this year, although it will probably be next year now and a new first floor almost, then I ended up working in the USA for 6 weeks, whilst my wife decides on falling down the stairs and braking her wrist and back in the first week I was away, she is self employed so no money coming in, but that's life and it goes on regardless of what life puts in your path, I'm a firm believer in "what happens, happens" so just suck it up and get on with life.

    I'm starting to do a bit more on the pond now the weather is picking up, I have to finish building the filter room but cant decide how to do it that it doesn't look an eyesore

    The fish are all doing well now, I did find Costia and fluke but that got treated quickly, i keep a good selection of potions in the house now as you never know.

    I'm really happy with the way its turned out and i'm hoping to get a pergola over it before summer, I certainly won't be getting any more fish until I can be certain the heron cant get them, the steel pegs are in, just need the posts and cross members, I do have a lot of stainless steel tube and brackets but I think that would look a bit odd, so its going to be wood I think.

    I need to look some good variable pumps to to replace my brand new fixed flow 18,000 l/h pumps, cocked up that purchase last year lol

    And, same as you I have all my air on one circuit, two aerated bottom drains and teh bio, I intend to split them so I can do a summer winter setup and only run 1 x 130l/h pump un summer and 1 x 70l/h pump in winter, and be able to turn the BD's off for feeding
    Wow! I hope your wife is recovering now. Sounds nasty. These things seem to happen when weíre away. I was working in China when my middle daughter (6wks old) was admitted to hospital. Awful being that far away and feeling so helpless. Fingers crossed your wife makes a speedy recovery. Gray's Pond Build Diary

    Glad the pond is working out well. I like the idea of a winter/summer set up. I need to adjust my air, as mentioned before, so I might look at a similar idea. Makes good sense and also means a back up is always there too.

    Iíve got a Heron that knocks around from time to time. Itís had two of the goldies already a few months back. However my wife got two more kittens in Jan to add to the rather large black farm car we have already and all of them love lounging around the pond. No interest in the fish but they bloody love hunting the Heron when he tries to land Gray's Pond Build DiaryGray's Pond Build Diary Iím not a cat fan but seeing the boys in action does make feel theyíre earning their keep.

    Iíve got a proper phosphate issue going on at the mo so thatís keeping me occupied. Big water change tomorrow to bring the level down. Iíve tried Resolve, etc and it kills off the weed but the levelís still too high so itíll come back. My tap waterís at 2 re phosphate so thatíll bring it no bother.

    I picked up a Jebao 18,000 variable the other month as mentioned above. Havenít fitted it yet but the wattage is super low and seems to have a good head height according to the info. Might be worth a look at one of those of youíre pump shopping.
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    hi gray. get some plants in the water mate. this helps. since i shut my top pond down for the winter. because of the cover and redirecting my water to a in pond pipe. because of wind chill. mine has changed as well.
    roll on 3 or 4 weeks time. so I can open the top pond again. so the plants are dealing with the phosphate. I have been doing 20 % water changes every 2 weeks. to keep mine under control. you solve one problem then another one arises mate. the cover worked though. and this winter I have been able to carry on feeding. which is a bonus. looks like your slowly winning mate. and as every week goes by. your pond and filters are maturing.
    that first 2 years is the hard part. keep it up bud.
    fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    Wow! I hope your wife is recovering now. Sounds nasty. These things seem to happen when we’re away. I was working in China when my middle daughter (6wks old) was admitted to hospital. Awful being that far away and feeling so helpless. Fingers crossed your wife makes a speedy recovery. Gray's Pond Build Diary

    Glad the pond is working out well. I like the idea of a winter/summer set up. I need to adjust my air, as mentioned before, so I might look at a similar idea. Makes good sense and also means a back up is always there too.

    I’ve got a Heron that knocks around from time to time. It’s had two of the goldies already a few months back. However my wife got two more kittens in Jan to add to the rather large black farm car we have already and all of them love lounging around the pond. No interest in the fish but they bloody love hunting the Heron when he tries to land Gray's Pond Build DiaryGray's Pond Build Diary I’m not a cat fan but seeing the boys in action does make feel they’re earning their keep.

    I’ve got a proper phosphate issue going on at the mo so that’s keeping me occupied. Big water change tomorrow to bring the level down. I’ve tried Resolve, etc and it kills off the weed but the level’s still too high so it’ll come back. My tap water’s at 2 re phosphate so that’ll bring it no bother.

    I picked up a Jebao 18,000 variable the other month as mentioned above. Haven’t fitted it yet but the wattage is super low and seems to have a good head height according to the info. Might be worth a look at one of those of you’re pump shopping.
    She is recovering slowly, its been 4 months and she still has to go to hospital 3 times a week, twice for her wrist and once for her back, we went last night and they are arranging a MRI scan of her wrist to see if she needs surgery or not, so fingers crossed, it will be okay.

    My Jebao 18,000 is 220 watt, I think I need a bigger one and most importantly a variable to feed the returns.

    I'm building a pergola this year to keep the herons off, the cats don't seem interested
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    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    hi gray. get some plants in the water mate. this helps. since i shut my top pond down for the winter. because of the cover and redirecting my water to a in pond pipe. because of wind chill. mine has changed as well.
    roll on 3 or 4 weeks time. so I can open the top pond again. so the plants are dealing with the phosphate. I have been doing 20 % water changes every 2 weeks. to keep mine under control. you solve one problem then another one arises mate. the cover worked though. and this winter I have been able to carry on feeding. which is a bonus. looks like your slowly winning mate. and as every week goes by. your pond and filters are maturing.
    that first 2 years is the hard part. keep it up bud.
    fred
    I know mate, you told me before about plants and I shouldíve sorted them by now... So Iím paying the price!
    I looked back at the previous post about plant types and guess what? Iíve now ordered some Gray's Pond Build Diary

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