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Thread: freds new pond build
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17-03-2019, 10:06 PM #2121
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18-03-2019, 10:14 AM #2122
A lot of the noise is to do with the returns to the pond being too high up causing excessive splashing sometimes.
When I fitted the Eazy Pod last year I had a play around with the return as it was fairly noisy and ended up with a 90 degree rubber boot angled straight down then a section of 3" pressure pipe coming out of that which I originally had sitting just above the surface which helped a bit and then extended the pipe to below the surface drilled a few 20mm holes in it and fitted a 3" to 4" reducer over it just above the top set of holes and this acted like a silencer. The thing I had to be careful of was the Pod was pump fed and if the return had too much restriction it could cause the Pod to overflow.
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18-03-2019, 10:50 AM #2123
Frims point is a good one. My return is at surface level but it only leaves me a 2cm sweet spot for the pond water level where both the surface is sufficiently agitated to provide oxygen, and the return doesn't make splashing noises.
However I use a tank connector for the return so can attach to this any angled short bit of pipe so as to manipulate the return flow.
It was interesting when I poured parasite treatment in at the return and could see exactly how the water flows around the pond giving insight on what pipe attachments would improve circulation.
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18-03-2019, 11:09 AM #2124
Another thing Frim, if you drilled a hole in your 3" rubber bend you might get aeration for free as it should suck in air.
Don't go drilling holes just yet though, I could be wrong and don't need another bill through the post.
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18-03-2019, 11:34 AM #2125
Extra aeration was never the issue as the 3" pipe from the Pod was never any where near full but I see what you mean though if I needed extra aeration. Another option would have been to fit a swept T with the straight through section mounted vertically. Just thought after various alterations to the return the elbow and reducer was the best all round solution as not only did it make a significant difference to the noise level it allowed the Pod to flow freely.
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18-03-2019, 01:36 PM #2126
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18-03-2019, 04:38 PM #2127
Hi Frimley, yes makes sense, i think after speaking with the tank builder the return could well be half way up the tank, i am told this is good for circulating and moving the water around ? there words not mine, but would be happy to know your views on this ? i was quite surprised that the water could be pumped back in this way i guess a one way valve would be used ? thanks Steve.
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18-03-2019, 05:22 PM #2128
It depends what system you are using Steve. Mine is pump fed system, so I have a pump in the pond which pumps through a UVC then into the Pod and then gravity returns to the pond. My pond is not very big but always seems to have good water quality so I must be doing something right If you have a gravity fed system them your filter is fed directly via your bottom drain and then returns to the pond via a pump and if you have a UVC then that would be between the pump and the pond. You can have multiple pumps with a gravity system depending on what filters you have. You can also have more than one pump on a pump fed system but you have to be careful that you don't end up starving one of the pumps because of the wrong flow rates. Also if the main pump fails any other pump on a pump fed system will be starved of water and if a pump further round the system fails something may flood or run dry. It's always worth fitting a level or float switch on a pumped system just in case to save pumping the pond dry should you get a leak.
If you are trying to mount a return half way up a tank then I'm guessing the return will always be under the water. If so then the return will almost certainly need to be pumped to make it work or you will need a good head of water to constantly push it's way through the return and into the tank.
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18-03-2019, 06:47 PM #2129
Hi Frimley,
i want to go bottom drain to drum filtration on a gravity fed system but unsure if this will work as from what i have read everything needs to be water level, this being the case will a mid high return work ? yes a good idea regarding some device to ensure pumps do not run dry or pond empties / floods, i have no idea what this would be so something else for me to look into, thanks Frimley appreciated, cheers Steve.
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18-03-2019, 07:03 PM #2130
I'm not 100% on gravity systems but my understanding of them is, yes as you say everything that is gravity fed via the bottom drain has to be mounted at very similar heights so the gravity side of the system works then as you need a pump to get the water back from the filters to the pond basically the return can be within reason almost anywhere you want as they are being pumped. The idea of a gravity system as I understand it is the pump is just recirculating the water and as result it shouldn't have to be working as hard as it does in a pump fed system.
If you look on the Evolution Aqua website it shows you how to connect up a Nexus filter for both pump fed and gravity fed plus it also shows how to have a sieve added to both systems. I know you are going to be using a drum but the way it's connected is basically the same as connecting any filter etc both pump and gravity fed so maybe worth a look as a starting point?
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25-03-2019, 02:54 PM #2131
When i went to take ohotos the other day. For frim. Qt and easypod
Water levels. I noticed my qt grow on tank level was lower. Meaning a leak.
Elimination time.
So started to investicate problem.
Thought it was my tank fiber glass
And bottom drain. Was not that.
Looked for water every where. Pipes pumps. Water butts. Joints. Bottom drain. Was not that.
Isolated every valve. Turns out my easy pod was lowering.
It was my waste slide valve.
Remedy i played with it. And cleaned it. Still leaking. So i need a new easy pod slide valve.
Its a screw in male slide valve all in one for an easy pod.
I have been On-line for the last 3 hours. And cannot find them anywhere.1 1/2 inch i believe.
So i need HELP of you all. Andi this is up your street.
I have been on ea site. Cannot find them. Maybe it is just me. I have now put end stopper on to stop leak.
Photos
One at front and one at the back of valve where it screws into the female.
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25-03-2019, 03:14 PM #2132
Hi Fred - I had the same problem on my Skimmer Easypod...leaking waste slide valve. Easiest and quickest solution I took, was mount a 1.5' ball valve after the slide. So kept slide in place and added the ball after it. I had the space to do it, in solid pipe...not sure thats an option for you? But since then all good...hate slides, everyone I've ever had have leaked...!! Cheers bud
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25-03-2019, 03:33 PM #2133
That's a pain Fred. The one on my main pond is a ball valve and the one that is going on my QT is a slide valve I think but I have a feeling the person who sold it to me took off the waste valve will have to check later. Your Eazy Pod must be one of the newer version as they originally had a slide valve on the inlet and a ball valve on the waste outlet now they are showing a slide valve on the waste outlet but nothing on the inlet Surely they aren't selling them without a valve on the inlet now are they?
If you have a male thread sticking out can you use a rubber boot reducer and then fit a ball valve to the waste outlet or solvent weld an adaptor or something similar onto it and then fit the valve you prefer?
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25-03-2019, 03:47 PM #2134
Its got threaded on the hole. So the male part on the actuel slide valve is male threaded. All in one. So when you screw it in. It screws in to female threadsThe whole valve turns around as you screw it in.
If that makes sense. As its solid. Cannot put boot on as its female.
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25-03-2019, 03:58 PM #2135
OK then how about fitting a 1.5" FTC in to the thread and then solvent weld into that - oh and don't forget to PTFE the thread on the FTC before screwing it in or if you have the room do as Scamp suggested fit another valve after the slide valve if that's a viable option - just not sure where the slide valve is leaking form so may not be an option?
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25-03-2019, 04:02 PM #2136
I must have been lucky with the first Eazy Pod I bought as I got it from someone on here I think it was the second one I got from someone on Ebay that wasn't quite as advertised and was missing a few bits from the picture they used to advertise it
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25-03-2019, 04:02 PM #2137
Nice one scamp. I did same on my ultra sieve. But like you had the room.
In this situation it sticks out to much.
If i cannot find a slide all in one screw in slide valve. I will resort to that.
I hate slide valves
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25-03-2019, 04:04 PM #2138
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25-03-2019, 04:07 PM #2139
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25-03-2019, 04:09 PM #2140
In the photo you have a stop end on the outlet of the slide valve Fred, what's it clamped onto as it's not the valve itself is it?
Another option would be to fit a rubber elbow where the stop end is and then fit another valve on that so the whole thing is pointing downwards and not outwards so doesn't stick out so much? Is that possible?
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