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    Security camera

    I would appreciate if anyone can maybe recommend an outdoor security camera which has the facility to be viewed live on an Iphone while abroad via an App / Wi-Fi etc.
    Although I endeavour to have someone visit daily if I'm away, I would like the additional peace of mind in case of a power cut etc not to mention it being a deterant to unwanted visitors.
    I have seen several models advertised on eBay but many do not have reviews so I would appreciate if anyone can feed back any experience on something suitable for my needs.

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    Hi,

    I asked this question a while back and received some really useful replies. I could not work out how to post a link but the pages to follow are below.



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    im holding out till they start to adopt the common onvif language, how lighting uses zigabee, odd they are dragging their heels when wireless cameras have been about for ages and lights are the new kid on the block, that and currently unless i use my NAS im not willing to pay a monthly "cloud" fee to fully unlock a bit of kit i have purchased
    the slow pond build thread

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    Buy a Hikvision turret they are great cameras

    pond cctv.jpg

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    If you want something slick that works out of the box and is designed to work via an app, then you could consider the Nest.

    It is not the cheapest outdoor wifi camera you can get, but it is HD and I like not having to worry about storing footage on site. It costs £8 a month to have unto 10 days footage stored in their cloud (you don't have to have the cloud to watch it live though) , which you can access from anywhere. If you have the subscription, you can set it to detect a person only, set zones for it to monitor, and decide what notifications you want. It will monitor if anyone is at home via your phone locations and can send a different notification pattern when you're all out. Mine is in the same app as my Nest thermostat, which is very handy.

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    suggested reads on the phone after posting came up with this and it sets out all the big players current devises and some pros and cons for them https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...eview-round-up
    the slow pond build thread

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    Hmm Nest

    where to start with that one

    It is very Wide angle (130 degrees) so detail retrieval can be very poor

    IR is weak

    Weatherpoofing is only IP65

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    foscam 2min idiot proof set up wireless hd nightvision 60quid and no charges

    I get better viewing in Singapore than I do in my front room

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    i second Hikvision turret camera.
    you will need the hikvision turret, a net video recorder and internet connecton and you will be able to view live footage and previous playback on the recorder and your iphone/android

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    I am thinking about cameras around my garden so when I upgraded my NAS I went for a QNAP which comes with the software and licenses for up to four cameras and stores the footage locally. Not as simple to put together as a standalone recorder and requires a bit of thought on the camera front but I would want to utilise four cameras to protect a number of areas of my garden. The NAS does a whole stack of other things for me as well (which are actually more important to me than the cameras) so it is not as though I am spending £500 on a camera recorder, however since the camera functionality is there I will make use of it.

    Strikes me though that setting this up is like choosing a new P.C. e.g. if you are not in the game then making the right choices can be a difficult call which is why many people would go for a standalone system which from what I have seen tend to be lower quality or much more highly priced.

    Kenny

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    Agree with you Kenny, you won't find me servcing my car etc

    The single biggest problem with camera is using one that it too wide. PTZ are very expensive but you can get cameras with a decent optical zoom (not digtal) range that is electronically controlled in software e.g. Dahua Starlight has a 2.7mm - 12mm motorized lens with gives a field of view from 97° to 34°

    In terms of recordings you have 3 choices (well 4)

    Use an SD card on the camera ( I don't reccommend it)

    A dedicated recorder - NVR

    A PC with manufacturer software or third pary software e.g. Blue Iris

    A NAS, QNAP and Synology work well

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmsims View Post
    Agree with you Kenny, you won't find me servcing my car etc

    The single biggest problem with camera is using one that it too wide. PTZ are very expensive but you can get cameras with a decent optical zoom (not digtal) range that is electronically controlled in software e.g. Dahua Starlight has a 2.7mm - 12mm motorized lens with gives a field of view from 97° to 34°

    In terms of recordings you have 3 choices (well 4)

    Use an SD card on the camera ( I don't reccommend it)

    A dedicated recorder - NVR

    A PC with manufacturer software or third pary software e.g. Blue Iris

    A NAS, QNAP and Synology work well
    Since I have the QNAP I found a site on Youtube that has dozens of videos showing how to do stuff with QNAP NAS (span.com). One of their videos is based around cameras to use on the QNAP NAS. They suggest all types and talk about the relative advantages etc. so I think I would probably go with some of these.

    Again they are probably not the least expensive but possibly the best objective advice I am going to get.

    Kenny

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    I have foscam ptz camera (fi9828) over my pond, for a similar price to the nest. I recently spent a week in hospital and I logged on daily to view (and feed) my koi. Simple to setup, excellent picture, and the pan and tilt function allows me to view the pond, house and garden with one camera. I’ve had it over two years with no problems.
    19,000 litres
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    The Arlo Go security camera, without a doubt! It uses a 4G SIM card so no need for decent WiFi or any cables. You can put it wherever you like, it’s also got voice so you can scare off those pesky herons.


    it costs £4 per month for the data use of the 4G SIM card and you can’t get any unexpected bills.

    You can also buy Camo covers for it so that it doesn’t looks like an eyesore.


    Without a doubt, it will be my choice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by balder View Post
    I have foscam ptz camera (fi9828) over my pond, for a similar price to the nest. I recently spent a week in hospital and I logged on daily to view (and feed) my koi. Simple to setup, excellent picture, and the pan and tilt function allows me to view the pond, house and garden with one camera. I’ve had it over two years with no problems.
    foscam here aswell ,. 60 quid , 2min idiot proof set up. free to use and a better stream in Singapore 2 yrs had it now no problems

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    Anther vote for hikvision, fitted a few now around the place, good value for money IMO and work well on the app. They boast a lot of features found in the more expensive brands like Siemens and axis.
    Make sure you buy a UK version though. There are some being on eBay with a English interface but uprgage the firmware and it all turns Chinese!

 

 

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