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    Quote Originally Posted by farmer rob View Post
    Well my koi looked back to normal yesterday, all the swelling seamed to have gone down and happily swimming around. I was going to give him another water change today and drop the salt level down. Alas I found him dead! never mind, we tried. Anyway, thanks for the advice,

    Rob
    I had similar with one a few years back. The salt reduces the swelling but doesn't necessarily address the cause. Mine also started to look better then died. I also had a devil of a time keeping the ammonia down several high% water changes a day were required!
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    Sorry to hear your koi didnt make it. Dropsy is often caused by underlying kidney failure, so the chances of it resolving are never good.

    Just a point for anyone with a similar situation reading this though- you should never salt to more than 0.9% because that is the concentration of salt in the blood of the fish. Going higher than that can cause dehydration and sodium poisoning in the fish. I would always recommend getting a salt meter when using salt since you have do a lot of water changes so keeping the salt at any given level is near impossible without one.

    Personally if I have to salt then I do it to 0.3% initially then gradually increase to 0.6% where I would hold it. If 0.6% doesnt result in recovery then its unlikely that 0.9% would effect a cure. For dropsy I would add an antibacterial such as Chloramine T too as septisaemia is a possible cause.

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    Sorry to hear your koi didnt make it. Dropsy is often caused by underlying kidney failure, so the chances of it resolving are never good.

    Just a point for anyone with a similar situation reading this though- you should never salt to more than 0.9% because that is the concentration of salt in the blood of the fish. Going higher than that can cause dehydration and sodium poisoning in the fish. I would always recommend getting a salt meter when using salt since you have do a lot of water changes so keeping the salt at any given level is near impossible without one.

    Personally if I have to salt then I do it to 0.3% initially then gradually increase to 0.6% where I would hold it. If 0.6% doesnt result in recovery then its unlikely that 0.9% would effect a cure. For dropsy I would add an antibacterial such as Chloramine T too as septisaemia is a possible cause.
    Would that be with salt working along with chlormine T. Or chlormine T on its own feline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Would that be with salt working along with chlormine T. Or chlormine T on its own feline.

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    Both together Fred, so long as the temp is over 16C for the CT.

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    Nice one. Cheers feline.

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    Very interesting Feline! I'm still learning but will certainly use your salt recommendations if needed in the future.

    Many thanks, Rob

 

 
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