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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    It's all a learning curve Ryan though it maybe hard at times.
    Good luck today mate and let us know what the problem is as we are all still learning,no one knows everything about koi.

    Just because you are joining a club dont be leaving here,you sound a nice guy and have a lovely pond so stay with us.
    I will second that john. yeah you stay with us as well mate. keep us updated mate

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    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Nanasai anne's Avatar
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    Ryan...………………...let that Koi club man out of the cellar right now !!!!! you cant keep him, he has
    a family to go home to...…………………..

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  5. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Ryan...………………...let that Koi club man out of the cellar right now !!!!! you cant keep him, he has
    a family to go home to...…………………..
    ha.. ha...he has just left... spent 2 hrs here.. lovely man.... with wealth of knowledge...
    really nice to speak to him... and he was very reassuring... and let me know how i could improve setup etc..


    so bit of feedback... he caught the fish with his hands as i had no net.. and he cupped the sick fish and wiped like a purple sludge off him.. and checked his gills... and said right away.. its bacterial......

    The main problem he confirmed is buying from garden centres and from salted setups into virgin water.. He said if buying fish to buy from reputable koi dealers and even other koi club members.. so you know what environment you are buying from.. so lesson learned there...

    as for these fish he said to salt dip them may help.. so that's my next step..but he did confirm that first 2 years of a pond you will have casualties.(kamikazi fish) . and anything that survives will be bombproof... which made me laugh...


    He said i may have problems further down line (treatments etc) with 3 species as in goldfish. koi. sterlet.. so may have to make a decision there...

    So purchasing some bits this weekend to try and dip these fish and fingers crossed.


    Joining the koi club and looking forward to the next few steps...

    Somethings Wrong[emoji3525]

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    It's all a learning curve Ryan though it maybe hard at times.
    Good luck today mate and let us know what the problem is as we are all still learning,no one knows everything about koi.

    Just because you are joining a club dont be leaving here,you sound a nice guy and have a lovely pond so stay with us.
    No plans on leaving forum..had some valuable advice off u guys.. thank u all again

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    Ryan,

    So very glad that the koi club man was able to help you out with your fish, pond and going forward - and that he doesn’t remain incarcerated in your cellar!

    Does this mean that you won’t be adding the second dose of Blagdon Anti-Ulcer to your pond? I ask because ever since you posted that Maidenhead Aquatics advised you to use this treatment (blind - arghh!!), I’ve wondered whether it’s safe to use with a sterlet in your pond. Disclaimer - I’ve never kept sturgeon/sterlet (only koi), I’ve never used Blagdon Anti-Ulcer and can’t find a definitive list of its ingredients via google. Blagdon claim that it’s safe for all ‘pond fish’. That said, I understand that it’s quite a potent treatment and, according to one website and posts on other forums, contains formaldehyde for which there is (arguably?) no ‘safe level’ for sturgeon/sterlet.

    Hope all goes well for you and your fish going forward.
    Last edited by LouiseR; 12-07-2019 at 08:27 PM. Reason: sp

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    Bet your feeling a bit better now Ryan and at least you know the problem.

    Did he give you the salt bath dosage?
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouiseR View Post
    Ryan,

    So very glad that the koi club man was able to help you out with your fish, pond and going forward - and that he doesn’t remain incarcerated in your cellar!

    Does this mean that you won’t be adding the second dose of Blagdon Anti-Ulcer to your pond? I ask because ever since you posted that Maidenhead Aquatics advised you to use this treatment (blind - arghh!!), I’ve wondered whether it’s safe to use with a sterlet in your pond. Disclaimer - I’ve never kept sturgeon/sterlet (only koi), I’ve never used Blagdon Anti-Ulcer and can’t find a definitive list of its ingredients via google. Blagdon claim that it’s safe for all ‘pond fish’. That said, I understand that it’s quite a potent treatment and, according to one website and posts on other forums, contains formaldehyde for which there is (arguably?) no ‘safe level’ for sturgeon/sterlet.

    Hope all goes well for you and your fish going forward.
    Hi louise..

    I was advised by the Koi Club Man to stop the treatment as I should only have added medication once a diagnosis had been made as which in my case it had not..(i should have listened to everyone on here first) therefore i could be doing more harm than good.

    I was informed that this treatment was safe for koi but this was from maidenhead... so i will take this with a pinch of salt... Somethings Wrong[emoji3525]Somethings Wrong[emoji3525]ha.. ha.. no pun Intended... (see previous posts and u may get that one)


    so going forward i am going to salt dip fish individually as suggested and keep my fingers crossed.. im stopping treatment... holding back on the feed.. and keeping up with waterchanges as usual.. meeting up with him on weekend again.. too see his pond...and hopefully have some good news with the fish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Bet your feeling a bit better now Ryan and at least you know the problem.

    Did he give you the salt bath dosage?
    hiya john... yeah feeling a lot better.. was blaming myself a bit... but he tested my water and it was good.. so he put it down to the change in environment from salted to non also the fact the fish are small he said sometimes in actual fact its better to start with slightly bigger older fish as they immune systems are sometimes better at adapting to change.these fish were tiny... combined with the fact my pond is 2 months old... he said its really hard in first 2 years and not to beat myself up... everyone experiences these losses... so onwards and upwards... regarding dosage i believe he said half a gramme to a gallon.. but not 100% as im meeting him again this weekend... need to purchase some bits prior to doing this.. net... bucket etc...

    thanks ryan

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    Glad you got on ok Ryan, surprised he didn't to a scrape though but everyone's different in how
    they go about things at least you have made contact ; now you've just got to pluck up
    the courage to go to your first koi club meeting., you will be fine and just remember they all probably
    started off with the '' goldfish pond '' the same as most of us . Take a pen and pad when you see Him
    again so that you can jot things down for future reference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Glad you got on ok Ryan, surprised he didn't to a scrape though but everyone's different in how
    they go about things at least you have made contact ; now you've just got to pluck up
    the courage to go to your first koi club meeting., you will be fine and just remember they all probably
    started off with the '' goldfish pond '' the same as most of us . Take a pen and pad when you see Him
    again so that you can jot things down for future reference.

    yeah im glad too now anne... thanks for the push... nice to chat with people in face about the hobby as well as through the keyboard.... I think no more spending on the fish for a while... see how this tiddlers get off and use the money on equipment etc. so im more prepared if and when im ready to add more..

    ta ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binary1927 View Post
    yeah im glad too now anne... thanks for the push... nice to chat with people in face about the hobby as well as through the keyboard.... I think no more spending on the fish for a while... see how this tiddlers get off and use the money on equipment etc. so im more prepared if and when im ready to add more..

    ta ryan

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    Nice one mate. Good to hear your feeling a wee bit better mate.
    Sounds good. From the chap who visited you.
    Like Anne said take everything in. And write stuff down mate.
    You will learn loads of these people lol. And when funds allow get yourself a qt. Grow on mate. That way you can put fish in
    When ill. And also fish that are vulnerable to certain treatments. Like sturgeon orfs tench and the like.
    I like the way the bloke caught the fish with his hands lol
    Should help the fish with a salt dip lol
    Have a good un
    Fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Ryan...………………...let that Koi club man out of the cellar right now !!!!! you cant keep him, he has
    a family to go home to...…………………..
    Haha brill

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