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    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Tom koi……..click on the ''General koi carp chat'' page, scroll slowly down the page, at the top you will see ''Sticky threads ''
    click on that and scroll down to the bottom and you will see the '' Abbreviations used in keeping koi '' might be of help to you we all had to learn you will get used to it.

    Stuffy, good luck with treatment its a worry at times you will be ok
    Thanks Ann think it's on the mend now

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    All done now Steve,what's the water look like?
    Load of foam?
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
    Yes all good thanks Fred did loose a few including one of my oldest but could have been much worse, by 3,45 hours into treatment the fish were all up on the top very lethargic and unsteady , had to put 3rd fountain on to get more movement in the water but it all seems OK now, just hope it's the start of settling down the painting ain't finishing got few more ideas to make it a bit nicer would love a large snow lantern, seen one with off white colour to the stand and all the symbols are in gold it looks great

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    Sorry to hear of the loss of fish steve. Fingers crossed for you that all is well.
    If its any help mate. Give a couple another scrape and scope after about a week.
    I have noticed this year on here.
    That a lot of people have had a follow up of parasite illness. RS. Was one. Flukes then Costia. Me with flukes then white spot. I think it boils down to the fish being weakend. And parasites are taking advantage. While the fish are weak.
    So just keep an eye on them mate
    All the best with it steve
    Fred

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    Hi Stuffy,

    What magnification were you on in that video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Hi Stuffy,

    What magnification were you on in that video?
    Was on * 40 but had my mobile on the adapted with the camera zoomed a bit , think I need a bit of practice with it as that's the first time I've used it

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    x40 or x400 ?

    i.e x40 objective and x10 eye piece?

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    Looks like costia and a lot of it but it’s not very clear. Other one would be chilodonella.

    Either way there a couple of treatment options.

    Pp for 4 hours or malachite green and formalin.

    If you go the Pp route first leave it a few days and a good water change before doing mg&f treatment. Use the separate bottles not the mix.



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    I'm assuming you mean x400, if not x400 then ignore this post.

    By looking at the actual parasites you can't tell what they are due to picture quality.

    But by concentrating on one of them and watching how it moves through the water you can get an idea.

    I'm definitely no expert as I've only seen Costia once myself (and even that could have been a misdiagnosis), but at 7 seconds in on your video one comes into view from the left at about 1/4 the way up the screen, and it darts across the screen until going off the right hand side, it almost "flickers" as it darts across.

    That is exactly how Costia looked on my scope, and if you watch videos of Costia you will see that's how they move when they're not going round in circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo_15_uk View Post
    Looks like costia and a lot of it but it’s not very clear. Other one would be chilodonella.

    Either way there a couple of treatment options.

    Pp for 4 hours or malachite green and formalin.

    If you go the Pp route first leave it a few days and a good water change before doing mg&f treatment. Use the separate bottles not the mix.



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    Done the pp today bud, initially thought it was chilodonella but it didn't move like it, sent the pics and video to my supplier and he was sure it was Costia also consulted John and Fred on here and thought just don't it before I lost any more fish, it broke so quick the water isn't a million miles off perfect believe it or not, I'm sure it's all related to that settlement chamber I had, just glad it's gone now

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    I'm assuming you mean x400, if not x400 then ignore this post.

    By looking at the actual parasites you can't tell what they are due to picture quality.

    But by concentrating on one of them and watching how it moves through the water you can get an idea.

    I'm definitely no expert as I've only seen Costia once myself (and even that could have been a misdiagnosis), but at 7 seconds in on your video one comes into view from the left at about 1/4 the way up the screen, and it darts across the screen until going off the right hand side, it almost "flickers" as it darts across.

    That is exactly how Costia looked on my scope, and if you watch videos of Costia you will see that's how they move when they're not going round in circles.
    That's what I did mate think I just need more practice or better scope, so will work towards both asap

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    You've done your best Steve that's all that matters,just hope the little fella comes ok.
    John

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    How they looking today Steve?
    John

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    Damn I wish I'd seen that vid earlier ... the magnification or focus wouldn't matter ... there's only one parasite moves like that ... you may have others too but that vid is "hoaching" with Costia ... no other parasite moves as fast or spins like that ...

    Hope you've got it sorted ... I'm amazed no-one else confirmed that earlier than 4x pages in ...

    That's well over x200 mag (looks like x400 that's why you can't focus easily) ... any other parasite would be at least 10x bigger and stationary in comparison ...... fingers crossed stuffy! ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    How they looking today Steve?
    Looking OK thanks John just staying deep down, Will know better when the water clears up the filters are doing overtime now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trace View Post
    Damn I wish I'd seen that earlier ... the magnification or focus wouldn't matter ... there's only one parasite moves like that ... you may have others too but that vid is "hoaching" with Costia ... no other parasite moves as fast or spins like that ...

    Hope you've got it sorted ... I'm amazed no-one else confirmed that earlier ...
    Thanks yes I hope it's on the mend now, I thought the same about the movement and my fish dealer too so I'm hoping the pp has done it's job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
    Thanks yes I hope it's on the mend now, I thought the same about the movement and my fish dealer too so I'm hoping the pp has done it's job

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    If you get anything like that again ... feel free to pm me and I'll take a look immediately .. at least you guessed right this time ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trace View Post
    If you get anything like that again ... feel free to pm me and I'll take a look immediately .. at least you guessed right this time ...
    Thanks that's great I've kept koi for a long time now but never got to the point of using a microscope , stupid I know just been treating with anti bacterial and sealing the wound and had pretty good success rate of fixing issues but now I realize it was half assed and I should have done it properly but I guess I didn't feel confident enough, I wasn't a member on here so was just on my own, but now it's great with the help from everyone on here I'm just kicking myself that I never tried harder sooner as maybe I could have saved some amazing fish I've had in my collection , thanks again , Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
    Thanks that's great I've kept koi for a long time now but never got to the point of using a microscope , stupid I know just been treating with anti bacterial and sealing the wound and had pretty good success rate of fixing issues but now I realize it was half assed and I should have done it properly but I guess I didn't feel confident enough, I wasn't a member on here so was just on my own, but now it's great with the help from everyone on here I'm just kicking myself that I never tried harder sooner as maybe I could have saved some amazing fish I've had in my collection , thanks again , Steve

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    A bit of advice I would give you is stick to x200 mag ... it'll be a lot easier to focus.

    Here's how I do scrapes ... you may find it interesting ... take or leave what you want from it ... https://www.koiforum.uk/koi-health-d...us-scrape.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trace View Post
    A bit of advice I would give you is stick to x200 mag ... it'll be a lot easier to focus.

    Here's how I do scrapes ... you may find it interesting ... take or leave what you want from it ... https://www.koiforum.uk/koi-health-d...us-scrape.html
    Thanks it's always good to have any advice and I want to do the best I can, I think everyone has a way of doing things and all are slightly different , so I try to get as much advice as I can when I'm not 100 percent certain what I'm doing,

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    Just one thing to point out....

    Not sure if you was serious about the thunderstorm or whether you were jokingly referring to the pond being a cauldron with all the air, but they say never to treat the pond when there is a thunderstorm brewing.

    I assume due to pressure / oxygen etc, although you clearly had plenty of oxygen.

    Also for any newbies who've not used PP before.... Until you're experienced using it (I'm not), never try and "chase" the colour. There's some disaster stories of first time users chasing the colour due to getting advice from people who know how to PP, but they are too inexperienced to know exactly what shade they're trying to achieve.

    This example is a total disaster and shows exactly what not to do:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc0MKySenOg

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