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    Mouth problems with my Koi

    I have a mixed pond of Koi, Orfe and Grass Carp and lately a couple of my Koi have developed what can best be described as lumps round there mouth. Can anyone help identify this and recommend a cure? Thanks Billy



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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythefish View Post
    I have a mixed pond of Koi, Orfe and Grass Carp and lately a couple of my Koi have developed what can best be described as lumps round there mouth. Can anyone help identify this and recommend a cure? Thanks Billy
    hi billy , can you get some pics up please , and we'l do our best

    steve

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    mouth problems with my koi

    Thanks for your reply to my post, I have got some pictures which i hope will help. It looks like the lumps are bleeding now so I don't hold out much hope for survival but i still need to protect my other fish. Thanks for your help.
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    Could be carp pox have a read of this "link deleted"

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    mouth problems with my koi

    Thanks Bandit, It certainly looks like it, hopefully now the weather is warming up it will clear on it's own.

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    There is no cure or treatment for it just the Koi's immune system that gets stronger when the water warms up.
    You could put some Iosal or the like on it if it looks angry it wont help with the pox but will help to stop any secondary infection taking hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit6 View Post
    Could be carp pox have a read of this
    Sorry Bandit but I don't think it's Cpox have you seen cpox? it's like candel wax an off white in colour and feels like wax. this a Job The mighty Ogawa

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    Agreed, doesn't look like 'pox'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shevyrabbit View Post
    Sorry Bandit but I don't think it's Cpox have you seen cpox? it's like candel wax an off white in colour and feels like wax. this a Job The mighty Ogawa
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    Agreed, doesn't look like 'pox'
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    mmmm it is a strange one as when you view the second picture it looks very sore underneath the mouth and this looks like a bad bacterial infection however the 3rd picture on the underside there is what looks like a wax kind of substance

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    i have never seen carp pox bleed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shevyrabbit View Post
    Sorry Bandit but I don't think it's Cpox have you seen cpox? it's like candel wax an off white in colour and feels like wax. this a Job The mighty Ogawa
    Bob trust me it's pox there may well be a small infection as well but it is pox,and yes I have seen it many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit6 View Post
    Bob trust me it's pox there may well be a small infection as well but it is pox,and yes I have seen it many times.
    I think it an infection from the bottom of the pond but the top man will know it's just my view I am no expert but Ogawa will no

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    If you have ever seen a Koi that has rubbed it's lip while feeding it will bleed very easily and it will be tiny pin pricks of blood,this is exsactly what we are seeing here the pox has caused the lip to bleed.It is not an infection from the bottom of the pond.if you look at the Koi's throat you can clearly see the standard pox there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit6 View Post
    If you have ever seen a Koi that has rubbed it's lip while feeding it will bleed very easily and it will be tiny pin pricks of blood,this is exsactly what we are seeing here the pox has caused the lip to bleed.It is not an infection from the bottom of the pond.if you look at the Koi's throat you can clearly see the standard pox there.
    You could be right it's only me view as I said Ogawa will give his take on it and I might be totally wrong let's wait and see I hope I am wrong

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    well i think i will leave this to ogawa as i have not ever seen carp pox like this so im not going to say any more on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit6 View Post
    Could be carp pox have a read of this http://www.koiquest.co.uk/Cpox.pdf
    Hmm, interesting. It would appear as though it might well be the pox. I never saw it like that before. When mine had it, the 'blobs' were more numerous, but not as severe. It was the lumps in the mouth that really threw me, but as said, it could be a secondary infection.

    Cheers...Freddy

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    Hi Freddy can you get get the Koi into a QT and slowly raise the temp to 24/26 with salt at 0.3% this should help the Koi's immune system fight the virus that causes carp pox.

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    HEY AND GUESS WHAT...MY QT SITS AT 24C AND HAS SALT ADDED TOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by trickydicky View Post
    HEY AND GUESS WHAT...MY QT SITS AT 24C AND HAS SALT ADDED TOO
    You kept that quite to Salt tricky I will have to keep an eye on you

 

 
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