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    white spot

    Hi ya all

    i just wanted to start a thread where i am going to go through what i am experiencing right now and what i do and the out come at the end.

    yesterday i lost a fish in my quarantine tank of which i have had now for about 3 months a nice white ogon. about 1 week ago i noticed some of the fish rubbing them selfs on the bottom, what i did was add 1/2 once of salt to the quarantine tank. having watched them more it was not making much difference so i then added Acriflavine of which still made no difference as i still lost the fish yesterday. i got up this morning and did my first ever scrape of which i learnt so much in 20 mins for sure. what i learnt was what white spot looks like under a microscope. well i then went and brought some NT Labs EX5 of which is a 5 day treatment for so many parasites. i put in my first dose today and will carry on for next 4 days and then do another scrape. then i will see how things are then.
    what i would advise to every one is go out and buy a microscope for sure and if you get any fish rubbing do a scrape. what i have learnt today will for sure help me in the future.

    mark



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    good advice there, if u have koi, invest in a microscope. do not treat blind. or at least know some one, u can ask to help. why spend money on a pond, and koi, then don`t know wot to treat for?? and loose some? happy new everyone.

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    HI MARK
    can you tell me wht you did in more detail what did you scrape did you use a scalpel how did you know what they look like on the microscope

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrydog View Post
    HI MARK
    can you tell me wht you did in more detail what did you scrape did you use a scalpel how did you know what they look like on the microscope
    well what i did was buy a cheap microscope off ebay awhile back for about £30 and in the set it has 10 slides. so what you do is net the fish out and use one slide to run from head to tail in this way so you dont pull the scales up. what your doing is getting some slime on the edge of the clear slide then you get another slide and rub the slime into the centre of the second slide then put one drop of pond water onto the slime. once you done this lightly put the 2 slides together so the slime is in between the slides. then put this onto your microscope and use x100. or you can use x400. once you have done this you move the slide about and focus in on what you can see. i then looked on the net for costia, trichodina, and white spot. i first thought it would be costia or trichodina. but then i found a picture of white and a video and bingo it was white spot that i could see on the microscope. i then just went and brought some nt labs EX5 and have treated today and for the next 4 days. hope this has helped you and if you need any more info pm me and we can have a chat on the phone. its really worth learning todo this because from now on i will be more on the ball. mark

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    You must be well chuffed as you were very worried on the phone last night mate . probably didnt help me reading from the book to you either,but hey like you say buying that cheap microscope saved you money and hassel in the long run

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    not the best video for taking a scrape but will give you an idea.

    YouTube - How to take a scrape

    white spot video

    YouTube - koi white spot ?

    costia video

    YouTube - Costia

    trichodina video

    YouTube - Trichodina

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    Quote Originally Posted by trickydicky View Post
    You must be well chuffed as you were very worried on the phone last night mate . probably didnt help me reading from the book to you either,but hey like you say buying that cheap microscope saved you money and hassel in the long run
    i was worried mate but it is well worth spending £30 on a ebay microscope for sure. having done this today i have now learnt some thing that all koi keepers should learn. maybe then we would not all loose fish including myself.

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    i never had a micro at first, untill i started reading koi forums. so instead of buying a koi for £50 £100 . i got a micro. last year there seemed to be a lot of flukes about. i had to treat twice, so glad i got one.

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    well been out today and treated again with EX5 on the second day and to say the fish look better is good. some of them was clamping there fins yesterday but today all swimming about alot better and not even seen them flick yet. mark

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    Hiya Mark.
    An excellent thread, very helpful for those of us who know absolutely nothing about taking scrapes/samples. Well done !

    Cheers...Freddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddy View Post
    Hiya Mark.
    An excellent thread, very helpful for those of us who know absolutely nothing about taking scrapes/samples. Well done !

    Cheers...Freddy.
    Thanks Freddy, you know me i will always try to help as much as i can poss do, i dont know much as some of the guys on here but if what im going through helps others in learning while i learn then its good. will keep posts coming on how things go with this treatment. mark

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    Bring the microscope when ya help me build my pond so we can do scrapes

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    Quote Originally Posted by trickydicky View Post
    Bring the microscope when ya help me build my pond so we can do scrapes
    cheeky sod you got a credit card now lol. buy one off ebay mate coz it be the best money you ever spent.

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    well day 3 of the treatment and all seems good so far, have not seen one fish at all flick or rub them selfs so fingers crossed. got 2 more days of the treatment to do and then will do a scrape on day 7 and see if all is good. got loads of air going into quarantine tank to help. mark

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    well day 4 of the 5 day treatment and all koi looking good in the quarantine tank, all swimming about alot better now and with all fins out and looking good. one more day of treatment then will do another scrape on them.

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    well day 5 of a 5 day treatment and all look good still. all fish look great and so much more better then 5 days ago. will now wait 2 or 3 days before i do a scrape and see it the fish have any thing left on them. fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markf1fan View Post
    well day 5 of a 5 day treatment and all look good still. all fish look great and so much more better then 5 days ago. will now wait 2 or 3 days before i do a scrape and see it the fish have any thing left on them. fingers crossed.
    hi mark did u raise the water temp during treatment?

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    hiya mate when i started the treatment the temp was only on 12 as i had just done a 75% water change but since then its now on 18 as got a 200w heater running in it. why do you ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by markf1fan View Post
    hiya mate when i started the treatment the temp was only on 12 as i had just done a 75% water change but since then its now on 18 as got a 200w heater running in it. why do you ask
    i thought with white spot u can only get rid of it when its free swimming ie when the cyst hatches out looking for a host, so if u raise the water temp this will speed up the cycle of white spot. so less treatment is required

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    if this is the case then with the temp on 18 i should have got them all, i have use nt labs EX5 which is a 5 day treatment over 5 days. have only done what it says on the bottle mate. will be doing another scrape come sunday.

 

 
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