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Thread: A little progress
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22-12-2018, 04:42 PM #1
A little progress
Had this one out today to have a quick measure to check on progress, one of the 2016 eggs... so now Sansai, still got some work to do but at 71cm we are getting there slowly.
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22-12-2018, 05:08 PM #2
You managed to breed that yourself! That’s amazing! Well done Davej
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22-12-2018, 05:22 PM #3
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22-12-2018, 05:50 PM #4
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22-12-2018, 07:35 PM #5
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22-12-2018, 07:48 PM #6
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22-12-2018, 07:58 PM #7
Very nice Koi, Dave..
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22-12-2018, 08:11 PM #8
Looking fantastic!
My DaveJ showas have grown quite well this summer too, but have not had them out for a measure. Are mine from the '15 spawning? One of them has had a lot of semi fade in the hot weather which I am hoping will come back over this winter. It's mostly my fault for not doing the pergola yet.2016 new 6000 gallon pond
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22-12-2018, 09:10 PM #9
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22-12-2018, 09:23 PM #10
wow, brilliant Dave, thats a really nice fish and some great growth for a gosanke.
When was the hatch date, is that 2 growth seasons or 3, was it grown on through the winters?...how have you done it ?
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22-12-2018, 09:34 PM #11
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22-12-2018, 09:39 PM #12
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22-12-2018, 09:47 PM #13
edit double post
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22-12-2018, 09:55 PM #14
wow, so thats about 30 months old then, and its had heat and been well fed all its life ?
i know some folk say the fish age prematurely by not having winters, I cant say ive noticed anything like that, but im relatively inexperienced.
Using your fish as an example, how do you think the fish might differ now, if it had been through 2 winters, colour, shape, condition etc, obviously it would be smaller.
Or does growth in the early years simply take priority and we think about other things later on?
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22-12-2018, 09:56 PM #15
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22-12-2018, 10:09 PM #16
There are a couple in the wildlife pond that provide realistic comparisons. Low to mid 50s.. I have rescued one a very nice shiro (from the showa spawn- its a by product) will see how / if she catches up. For sure if the showa had been in cooler water it would have been smaller and would have been tighter and cleaner skin wise.. The risk with GoSanke is that if you push and grow them too much they are more liable to break up.
BTW feed for the last year has been 34 -37% protein.
No chance of 80 in the next year, with luck a couple of seasons
And at last the couple of Mukashi from Gary at Gatwick that I chucked into the tank to encourage the feeding have outgrown the Showa, now these have bodies and are cruising towards 80 next season..Last edited by Davej; 22-12-2018 at 10:13 PM.
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22-12-2018, 10:23 PM #17
is the fish having its 1st winter now?
ok maybe not 80 cm next year but its going to be the nice side of 75 cm surely isnt it....yes its going to slow down but its not going to stop is it.
crikey it doesnt seem 2 minutes since you got them mukashi, got any pics of them ?
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22-12-2018, 10:55 PM #18
Yes I am backing off feed this winter..
Mukashi are very tidy, one has a slight edge quality and potential max size wise, both are lean and athletic which to me is important at their age.. another 18 months and their reticulation will start to become really be imposing. Far from sure whether I will keep them that long, rather replace them with Tosai and take some load off the system.
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23-12-2018, 09:46 AM #19
nice, they sound promising .
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23-12-2018, 10:12 AM #20
Great looking fish dave. From an egg as well. Which is even better
Satisfaction wise. Love it.
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Running heater at low temp?
Covering the pond with polycarb should be enough to stop water temps dipping below 6C for the most...