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    Not happy

    Had a run in this past week with the local council and water authority.....
    In my garden i have the main sewer manhole that 6 properties run into including us.
    Now one of the properties as a problem that their sewer pipe as a blockage and part of it runs through our garden into the sewer pipe...

    Now i had said this before with the local council and the water authority and i told them next time theres a blockage you better start looking into rerouting their sewerage pipes into another drain ...
    People in these properties over the years continually flush baby wipes etc and nappies down the toilet..
    So no more....
    Now this pipe runs a few feet away from my pond and down the side of it about 4ft down.....
    The local council and the water authority have said that i will have to move my pond to have the work done.....
    Sorry but no its not a council house and you where warned.....

    The council say that they may take legal proceedings.....
    Go ahead waste more tax payers money.....

    So far the water authority have tried to force it through to no avail so we will have to see what happens now....



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    Just had the council big wigs around....
    They had said that under such n such act that our drain is a communal waste pipe that serves 6 properties and they and the water company have a legal right to carry out repairs etc....

    So...
    This is my property etc......
    My boundary.......

    Who is going to pay for the upheaval and the damage to my pond and the garden !
    Come back with a viable solution.....

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    Have they put a camera through the pipe to see where it is blocked yet

    I know you cant build within 3 meters of a main sewer it comes under building regs
    Unsure if ponds are the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    Have they put a camera through the pipe to see where it is blocked yet

    I know you cant build within 3 meters of a main sewer it comes under building regs
    Unsure if ponds are the same
    Yes they put a camera in both ends and made a recording of the blockage..
    All i could see was a mass of brown on the screen it was really not in good detail on the screen...
    See what happens next.....

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    Weren't you planning to upgrade your pond? If so, here's your chance to upgrade and get the local authority to pay for it. Make sure you inform them of the considerable inconvenience to you and the risk of injury and stress related health problems associated with moving fish at this time of year.

    Type something out which exaggerates the risks and send it to them, asking the head of department to sign it. This will cause a delay while all the officers at the council sh1t themselves and scurry round speaking to the legal people.

    Refer to the fish as livestock. There may be different rules if the land has livestock.

    Anything they tell you, ask for it in writing.

    Just for starters...

    Get a vat to put the fish in...keep receipt. Invoice council.

    Local authorities (or at least the one i worked for) often cave in to awkward people. Purely because they have to consider the cost of the outcome the awkward person desires vs The cost in "officer hours" spent dealing with/squabbling with the awkward person.

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    I spent several hours this morning at the coffee shop working out the cost etc and the upheaval of the work......
    One thing that came to light is that they cannot bring machinery into our garden everything would have to be done by hand...
    I have also contacted an old school and footballing mate who works in a legal capacity who will see me over the weekend.....

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    Is the blockage roots or a broken drain line? If its roots then they can be removed with a jetter and root cutter then have the drainline relined. This work would involve no digging as access is via the manholes.

    If the build up of wipes are completely blocking the drain line then something will have to be done very quickly as the drain line and manholes will back up in a few days.

    Have you seen the cctv of the drain line?

    Andy

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    At one point the water company did mention lining all the pipework connecting to the man hole and the main sewer pipe.....
    But im sure one of them said that one cannot be done..
    The property that is connected to the sewer pipe that runs into the man hole is empty.....

    Ive a feeling that this week maybe eventful.....

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    When you purchased the property your legal advisor should have/would have made you aware of any legal rights of way on your land. Just because its within your boundary doesn't mean you own it, you most likely are required to provide access if required, if providing access means moving your pond that will be your liability not theirs [as long as the drain was their first]. They will be required to make good any work they do to, i.e. reinstating any lawn, paths etc which they may damage in the process, but I doubt this will be extended to rebuilding your pond.

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    Just had a phone call that the water company are going to try n move the blockage from both sides at the same time apparantly so they want access to my garden on thursday....

    They dont think its a tree root or a broken pipe just a stuborn blockage this is info off the video they did...
    They are also going to line the pipes.....
    So we will what happens

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    This can't be a 'complete' blockage as sewage would be overflowing somewhere, is this a partial blockage?

    I carry out cleaning of blockages, my machine is 200bar 3000PSI. The contractors machinery is normally a lot more powerful so it should be unblocked very quickly.

    I look forward for the outcome.

    Andy .

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    I have theory and perhaps still digging you can put me right.....
    Are the pipes 4 inch !
    If so im wondering if its a combination of fat etc and other bits n pieces thats congealed into this blockage........
    Hence the high powered water blasting didnt work.....

    Just a thought.......

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    My jetter will cut through grease and fat like a hot knife through butter.

    The pipes will be 4" minimum and then going up to 6" and even larger depending on the run.

    Andy

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    The obstruction is finally sorted....
    Is seems that a chunk of concrete and some build up of waste was the issue......
    High powered water pressure from both ends removed enough crap and the concrete chunk was pushed through with what looked like a plunger......
    Anyway the camera as been bk down and all is ok and no breakages..
    They didnt even line the pipe/s......

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    Apparently they had started to did out the sewer pipe from the rear property yesterday afternoon only noticed that this morning as we drove past and there was a skip full of soil and the original clay pipes sat on top...
    Nobody about to ask why though........

 

 

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