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    Seneye +

    Little advise please, has anyone got one of these, if so is it any good



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    I have a Seneye (the + are the slides for the Seneye)
    It has it's flaws but overall I'd say it's good.
    Pros:
    Can see trends (reading every 30 mins so you can see affect of air on pH, feeding on NH3 etc)
    Can see pH, temperature and NH3 wherever you are
    NH3 is much more use than ammonia (which most kits give you)
    Quite reliable (the main component)
    Seneye support is very good
    Cons:
    Calibration drifts so readings not 100% accurate
    Step changes between slides
    Belkin software / hardware (if you want to run the Seneye remotely from a PC) isn't very stable
    Seneye never ever release things when they say they will

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    I agree with everything John has said

    But despite the cons I wouldn't be without my Seneye now.
    You still need to do some other water testing, particularly for nitrite and KH which the Seneye can't do and you really need to keep an eye on. But you will know vastly more about what your pH is up to than with manual testing and it's great to be able to log into from anywhere in the world to see what's going on in your pond!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    I agree with everything John has said
    Bloody hell, are you sure?

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    seneye

    sorry if im going off the thread john mentioned a silex instead of belkin to use with your seneye any info of model type thanks

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    This is the one I have:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    I still reboot the PC once a day (but normally the Silex software doesn't crash or lose connection) but never have to reboot the Silex hardware.

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    Not 100% accurate
    Step changes between slides
    No nitrite reading
    No KH reading
    No nitrate reading
    No TDS

    Save your money

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    The problem with slides, could you not put slides in a couple of days early

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    You're supposed to soak them for 24 hours before fitting them but I find it makes little difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbob View Post
    Little advise please, has anyone got one of these, if so is it any good
    Hi I have had one for over 2 years. I have had few problems with it and have recommended it to over hobbyist. I do from time to time cross check the readings with my Palin test kit and they are always pretty close. the only draw back is the absence of Nitrite KH GH and one or two other tests, which are coming according to Seneye.

    I have one on my pond and one on my Quarantine tank.

    You'll need something to link via wifi to your router, either a Belkin or the latest out from Seneye last week ... a SWS.

    But I would recommend it to any hobbyist

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    I keep seeing Belkin mentioned whenever there is a thread about Seneye. Is the software/hardware Belkin based with no options?
    Belkin must be the most unreliable kit available so I'm amazed if that's the case.

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    Old fashioned way for me, get them test tubes out:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalNorwich View Post
    I keep seeing Belkin mentioned whenever there is a thread about Seneye. Is the software/hardware Belkin based with no options?
    Belkin must be the most unreliable kit available so I'm amazed if that's the case.

    I found Belkin hardware and software unreliable too. I found the (free) Silex software will work with Belkin hardware and that made things better. In the end I went for Silex hardware too and that worked very well.


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    I'm in the process of upgrading to pond at the moment and I am thinking of the possibility of using a Seneye to keep tabs on the pond, I particularly like the idea of remote monitoring, I just haven't convinced myself of the ongoing commitment costs yet...

    As there seems to be issues around the Belkin solution I've been looking at other options to connect it up.

    As the unit will be some way away from the house and putting a PC / Laptop in the pump house does not appeal due to (I guess) a short lifespan for the laptop in such a nasty environment.
    So, mooching around on the net I came across some units that extend USB over Cat5 cable.
    I promptly ordered one and have connected it to a 100m length of Cat5 cable and plugged in various USB items and without fail they all appeared faultlessly on the PC.
    So, in theory the Seneye should also do the business....

    Has anyone tried one of these with a Seneye?
    An example item eBay number 310686052393 (the one I actually purchased)

    If not, I was thinking of perhaps using a little Raspberry Pi and plugging the Seneye in directly and then networking the Pi back. But I guess there will not be the required drivers plus the software will not work so a bit of coding will be required.

    cheers

    Kevin

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    I tried a USB over Ethernet with my Seneye, it wasn't a great success for me.
    As the Seneye software needs a PC and I think the comms protocols are proprietary I'm not sure how you'd get the Raspberry talking to the Seneye.
    Seneye are planning to sell a web server soon. I've got one on beta and am very impressed so far.


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    I looked into the possibility of connecting mine to my Raspberry Pi which is conveniently located in a sealed jar in my actual pond (under water camera setup). But unfortunately there is no way of running the Seneye software on Linux or Ubuntu, and I cannot install Windows XP on the Pi so shelved that idea. The Belkin in a dry box near the pond works a treat mostly, with an old laptop indoors set to automatically reboot 3 times a day (this is because the Belkin software is a bit crap and often loses it's connection, a reboot fixes it).

    The new SWS would remove the need to have a laptop on all the time, so I will probably get one once the beta guinea pigs have done their stuff

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    I wasn't aware of the upcoming server jobbie.
    Sounds like my plan will be run the Cat5 to the pond, stick it on a hub and await the unveiling of the server solution then.

    cheers

    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik bate View Post
    Old fashioned way for me, get them test tubes out:-)
    I must say, I've read varying reports about Seneye on here over the last year or so, and I can't say that I'm all that inspired! Seems to be lots of issues, for what should be, and is, a relatively easy task to test your water.

    Or am I missing something?
    1630 Gallon raised pond
    4" 'Avenue' bottom drain
    Estro sieve
    Econobead EB60 bead filter
    Sequence 18000 pump, 6000 pump on skimmer line
    Elecro 2kW in-line heater
    Evolution Aqua 70 air pump
    Standard wall skimmer
    Hozelock Vorton 55watt UV
    and some nice koi

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    Go on then, I'll bite
    Have you ever tried two different "easy" methods?
    Same result?
    Even close?
    I'm allegedly a qualified chemist and I'm buggered if I can get two methods to agree


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    Lol, well, I know what you're saying John, and to answer your question 'no'!

    Call me old fashioned, but I stick with one type I can get on with and then that becomes my only comparison.

    If I'm honest, I did consider a Seneye about a year ago, but not sure now!
    1630 Gallon raised pond
    4" 'Avenue' bottom drain
    Estro sieve
    Econobead EB60 bead filter
    Sequence 18000 pump, 6000 pump on skimmer line
    Elecro 2kW in-line heater
    Evolution Aqua 70 air pump
    Standard wall skimmer
    Hozelock Vorton 55watt UV
    and some nice koi

 

 
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