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08-07-2019, 02:35 PM #1
Green Water - Drum the answer?
Hello All
So pond has been running for about 9-10 weeks and water parameters are OK although I know it takes months to get filters mature!
My issue is that the water is still green which i want to sort out. it is "less green" since changing the UV tubes in the two Evo 75's.
So, is the issue that i need more mechanical filtration - would a standalone drum be a good option for this? (I figure my nexus and 5 bay is enough for bio filtration?)
Thoughts?
Cheers!
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10,118Gal 46,000l
Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
2x13,000lph pumps, 2xEvoAqua75wUV
11 Koi
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08-07-2019, 03:02 PM #2
The question is:
is your water green with algae or green with fines?
Put some in a glass and allow it to settle for a few hours. If it stays green then its algae and you need more UV oomph or more shade for the pond.
If it settled out then it's fine particles which Nexus filters are not great at removing. If that is the case a drum will really help.
You could address both by getting a drum with a submersible UV inside it- they are much more powerful than the same wattage of in-line UV units.
The Amalgam UV does a very good job on my 6000 gallon pond in full sun, with an 80w unit.
Your pond might need 2 of them though, depending how much shade you have.2016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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08-07-2019, 03:04 PM #310,118Gal 46,000l
Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
2x13,000lph pumps, 2xEvoAqua75wUV
11 Koi
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08-07-2019, 04:44 PM #4
As previously advised, new UV tubes are good for about six months, ie through summer, providing your time (dwell) passing through the UV is not too rapid? Shade over the pond or Sun all day, all variables to deal with!
The absolute minimum (often quoted) is 10 Watts/1,000 gallons, much more is better! Dependant on your variables?
Best of luck
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08-07-2019, 04:57 PM #5
Tubes are brand new - 150w total.
Flow is not that fast through them.
Will see what the pint glass shows me in the morning!
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Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
2x13,000lph pumps, 2xEvoAqua75wUV
11 Koi
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08-07-2019, 05:22 PM #6
Be sure that the quartz tubes are clear of limescale or any other coating that will defuse the uv light. Being in a hard water area I have to soak mine in kettle de-scaler every year to clean them of the limescale. Just a thought.
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08-07-2019, 11:28 PM #7
55 watt UV, Nexus flowing at just 4000 lph, and this is what I got out of the CLEAN side of the nexus in just 2 hours tonight:
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09-07-2019, 08:36 AM #8
Morning All
Pint glass test done and there was a fine layer of green (very small amount) but enough to convince me this is a mechanical filtration issue.
Need to save the pennies for a Drum eventually but in the meantime..... any ideas?
Mode10,118Gal 46,000l
Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
2x13,000lph pumps, 2xEvoAqua75wUV
11 Koi
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09-07-2019, 02:18 PM #9
Some people have done mods to their Nexus such as using filter socks or filter wool in the exit, but because these things block up so quick it doesn't seem to be that good a permanent solution. Also if pump fed can cause overflow problems or if gravity fed end up starving the pump.
Have you got the micro K1 thingy in your Nexus mech section?2016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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09-07-2019, 02:46 PM #10
Even EA themselves have no idea based on my recent emails from them which are posted on another thread.
They will tell you you're cleaning the Nexus too frequently; you are not giving the eazy a chance to build up a strong biofilm; your pump flow is too fast; you're not doing enough partial water changes etc etc.
It will be your fault not the Nexus' fault.
In reality I think a drum is the realistic answer at least in my case.
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09-07-2019, 02:53 PM #11
I think when you look at a bunch of K1 all crushed together in a stationary stack, it just doesn't make sense that it would be able to trap fine particles, it has holes in it
A lot of us here have had struggles with EazyPods and Nexi in this way to be honest. They really should have invested in the Draco as a product enhancement IMO rather than going in for all the automatic gadgetry they have added to it instead.2016 new 6000 gallon pond
https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construc...ghlight=feline
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09-07-2019, 06:09 PM #12
Doesn't matter what option they go for Feline, the bit that grates me is the promise of crystal clear healthy water.
That part of it is an outright lie when aligned with the product's turnover/koi pond size specs.
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