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12-05-2019, 08:55 PM #1
What's the most you would pay for a koi?
Hi fello koi nerds
I used to always have a price of £300 and that would be my cut of point regarding koi prices, however over the years I seem to be heading up more towards the £1000 mark, I'm not sure if its because my confidence to keep such expensive koi alive has made me do this! or I maybe losing the plot a little
I guess everyone has a budget, and as the old saying says, whatever you pay, you have to except you may lose too! I try not to think about that part!!!!
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12-05-2019, 08:57 PM #2
I would pay what I could afford if I liked a fish enough no limit
Wife mite have a different view like haha
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12-05-2019, 09:11 PM #3
I’m probably around the £400 mark, maybe £500. I actually like buying small and watching them grow which helps the bank balance, and the marriage!
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12-05-2019, 09:38 PM #4
At the moment, probably £300 ish.
In the future, who knows?
Last year was my first proper year keeping Koi seriously. Bought a few sub £100 Koi. Admittedly one or 2 have turned out nice, other's have deteriorated. After the cost (loss) of moving them on and replacing them with more cheap Tosai.... maybe I'll eventually decide the answer is to spend money and buy real quality from the outset.
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12-05-2019, 10:08 PM #5
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12-05-2019, 10:16 PM #6
It also depends on variety I think, I’d pay more for Go Sanke as it’s so hard to buy good fish small?
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12-05-2019, 10:38 PM #7
I guess I normally pay £500 up but not really over a £1000 these days.
I think you can get some nice koi for £300 up these days
I do however buy the odd small koi to grow over a year or so to see how they develop before moving them on.
I have four koi which will post on here to move on, now 2year olds and all grown well over the year.
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13-05-2019, 07:37 AM #8
The most I have paid for a koi was a small 7ins for £70.
I like to buy small watch them develop if I dont like them when they have developed they go.
Agree with Dave prices have gone crazy,I could afford to buy a £1000 koi but I cant justify spending that amount,so my limit is probably £100 and that is pushing it.John
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13-05-2019, 11:02 AM #9
cos im a tight arse yorkshireman £10 although ive gone to £35,and ive just bought 2x 60cm koi for £100,felt sick handing that much money over lol,,,,andi
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13-05-2019, 11:51 AM #10
That is the key to it all I think.
At this stage in the hobby buying big highly expensive fish that have "finished" removes the excitement and anticipation. They cannot improve further, only stay as they are or deteriorate in the future.
Buying very high quality Tosai that are assured to finish perfectly and become valuable koi is virtually impossible and still expensive.
But choosing a good quality Tosai / Nisai and "hoping you've got the ugly duckling that turns into a swan" is much more exciting, albeit usually fraught with disappointment.
But it is possible. There was a post on here which I can't find at the moment, possibly of a tancho sanke but can't remember for sure, bought for something like £30 at Tosai, chosen by the posters wife, and looked pretty bland. 3 or 4 years later he re-posted pics and it was truly stunning.
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13-05-2019, 02:17 PM #11
Process of elimination Rs.
Agree dont see why folk with loads of cash buy big and then show them, annoys me as they have done nothing to get that fish to that standard.
I used to breed and show budgies and rabbits,and it used to happen there,suppose it does with all livestock.
Going off the subject sorry.
You made me laugh there Andi,and I thought I was the only tight one.
When I sell on a few the monies I make goes ( no not on stocking the fridge up ) back into the koi,dont make anything but I have to add to it.John
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13-05-2019, 03:15 PM #12
When i started buying koi last year I said I’m only buying tosai for around £30-35 but since then i have spent up to £400 on my most expensive koi
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13-05-2019, 04:53 PM #13
for freshwater very little there's so much on the market there's no need, for marine well they tend to be more expensive
the slow pond build thread
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13-05-2019, 06:59 PM #14
The most interesting discovery about this thread so far is that nobody has admitted to buying the dozens of £1000 - £4000 Koi that are added to Dealer websites and many of them showing as SOLD within 5 or 6 days.
Who's buying 'em?
In one case I saw a £5995 Koi appear on a Dealer's website and a couple of days later it was marked as sold..... But I recognised the Koi from a video I'd previously seen of someone buying it directly from Japan. This Koi was never actually for sale from the Dealer in the first place. Possibly it was delivered there for the buyer as part of a bigger shipment, but it was never really for sale.
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13-05-2019, 07:02 PM #15Freddyboy the legend
"we are water keepers first"
Johnathan
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13-05-2019, 07:16 PM #16
The most I have paid for a koi is £3600
For a showa and that was after a discount as I new the dealer quite well.
Can't see me spending that sort of money on a koi now, but then I think they have improved and got better over the years.
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13-05-2019, 07:24 PM #17
Buying small and watching them grow is part of the fun for me. The pond has some mutts which the kids like and make fun of lol. It also contains some fish which I like and think are fairly decent, most likely not show winners but I like them and that's all that matters.
I understand that some want that perfect collection but spending all that money on huge perfect fish seems like it would take away part of the hobby for me.
For the record I've not spent more than £200 on a fish. A really nice metallic Ochiba that I had to have and a tosia karashigoi that wasn't far behind.
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13-05-2019, 07:53 PM #18
I've just purchased my first koi at the koi show in Kent this weekend, they were £45 each or 2 for £50. Didn't get the logic in the pricing but saved my wallet from being hit too hard. My plan is to buy them small and watch them grow over the years. At a guess in the future I'd go up to £100-£150 per fish once I have a bit more experience and know the ponds doing well and filters have matured.
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13-05-2019, 09:10 PM #19
Some interesting posts here,
It seems most of you are keeping under the £500 mark, and I totally get that, as most koi generally are a high risk investment, with no guarantee, and if sold on usually sell for less!!
As for prices, they have gone crazy, I never thought I'd ever be handing over £800 for a tosai, but these kind of prices for tosai seems the norm in this day and age! and if you stay below the £300 mark most generally deteriorate,
I also think as your koi eye improves over the years, your pocket stays the same which can be very frustrating
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13-05-2019, 09:33 PM #20
This subject is very interesting. I was looking at Koi Water Barn website at the weekend and they have some fish on there listed at, for example, £8,995. I wondered who pays this and why.
I've seen members here advertise fish they paid several hundred pounds for, and after a year or two, sell off for less than a third of that.
Dealers must have a very significant mark up - probably retail is at least double their cost. And I suspect that the people capable of identifying the very highest quality fish (not me) have already snaffled the best fish before they see the light of day for the rest of us.
Value versus price is highly subjective. We are very happy with our fish by and large and the most we have paid is £100. Perhaps this will change as we become more experienced. But I have my doubts. A fish is just a fish.
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